Pavane - I know it's around here somewhere

[HGillespie]

Don't be too rough on me guys, I have limited experience and a few big brothers that might - MIGHT stick up for me....then there are the TUBASISTAS!

Question:
Where would I find Pavane for Tuba and Piano? Cello and Piano or Euphonium and Piano will do. I understand it's published by Bernel Music...sound familiar? My friend the piano player would like very much to accompany me on this wonderful piece.

[UTSAtuba]

Try here:

http://www.hickeys.com/pages/chxtu.htm" target="_blank

I'm not affiliated with them. I found it through an internet search.

Joseph

PS-I believe it's spelled "Pavane".

[imperialbari]

Hi Helen

Great that you have a pianist friend. Everybody should have one. I don’t worry about your safety. Your army isn’t exactly the Salvation variant.

From the link given I learn that you are thinking about Faruré’s Pavane, which I know, but hadn’t on top of my mind.

For the score freaks like myself I found the original score in a public domain downloadable version. No tuba in the original, still great music:

http://tinyurl.com/FaurePavaneOriginalScore-Parts

Klaus

[HGillespie]

I guess it helps to spell it correctly. Thank you.

The two links definitely get me closer. The Hickey's link is an arrangement for piano, flute, cello, and tuba. Interesting combination there. Just might have to find a flute and cello/euphonium player to help out.

Love this one:
http://imslp.org/wiki/Pavane_pour_une_i ... 3%A9funte_(Ravel,_Maurice" target="_blank)

Of course, I was expecting some neat, tidy, ready to order, and land on my music stand in less-than 48 hours.

Thank you again for your help. I KNEW I should have taken arranging in college.

Next question...anyone know where I can find, "Arranging for the Tuba With Piano for Dummies" book?

[imperialbari]

There were lots and lots of Pavanes written. Mostly during the renaissance, as it was a dance form coming out of the Spanish court.

You however ask non-specifically. Another poster gave a link to an arrangement of the Fauré Pavane, which I followed up upon.

You now give a link for another great “modern” Pavane, the one by Maurice Ravel. Like with the Fauré one I downloaded the public domain music.

The Ravel Pavane was originally composed for piano solo, and then later on orchestrated by Ravel himself. Furthermore your link leads to 3rd party arrangements for string orchestra and for English horn with piano.

I don’t think there is any "Arranging for the Tuba With Piano for Dummies" to be found. Not because of the tuba element, but because of the need for being a very much above average piano player to be able to set efficiently for the piano. And retranscribing something originally written for the piano by a true master would be an enormous challenge.

If the Pavane you want is the one by Ravel, you however will find help in the music available through your link. The version you shall go for is the one for English horn and piano. Let the piano part be as is, and do something about the English horn part.

If you were an F tubist you could play the English horn part as is with trumpet fingerings. As you however are known to play BBb tuba, you will have to transcribe the treble clef F part to bass clef concert.

Visually you shall move all notes one step up. And then one sharp shall be removed from the key signature. That will transpose the music one octave down. Whether you want the music down two octaves will be your decision. Transposing the music down an extra octave can be done on paper without too many problems. However it is not uncommon for tubists to read music down an octave. In your case you would then have to apply euphonium fingerings.

There will be questions about specific accidentals. Please ask.

Klaus

[brianf]

There are a number of works commonly borrowed by tuba players for performance such as the Pavane. Micky Wrobleski did the trasposition for tuba and assembled the Soloist Folio for Tuba for use with the Original Accompaniments that contains:

Debussy - Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun;
Finzi - Five Bagatelles for Clarinet;
Handel - Aria con Variazioni "The Harmonius Blaclsmith";
Handel - Sonata No, III in G Major for Flute;
Haydn - Concerto No 1 in D Major for French Horn;
Ravel - Pavane for a Dead Princess;
Saint-Saens - Romance, Op 36;
Schumann - Adagio and Allegro, Op 70


All of this for $15 - such a deal! For more information, go to
http://windsongpress.x-shops.com/store/ ... t=0&page=1" target="_blank

[HGillespie]

Nice!

BIG THANK YOU for Brian!

[imperialbari]

There are a number of works commonly borrowed by tuba players for performance such as the Pavane. Micky Wrobleski did the trasposition for tuba and assembled the Soloist Folio for Tuba for use with the Original Accompaniments that contains:

Debussy - Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun;
Finzi - Five Bagatelles for Clarinet;
Handel - Aria con Variazioni "The Harmonius Blacksmith";
Handel - Sonata No, III in G Major for Flute;
Haydn - Concerto No 1 in D Major for French Horn;
Ravel - Pavane for a Dead Princess;
Saint-Saens - Romance, Op 36;
Schumann - Adagio and Allegro, Op 70


All of this for $15 - such a deal! For more information, go to
http://windsongpress.x-shops.com/store/ ... t=0&page=1" target="_blank" target="_blank

Good thing that such stuff is available, Brian! And at an affordable price level, too. After all many tubists are more interested in playing high quality music than in providing the musicology work themselves.

Many of the items on your list are obvious, because they are original solos, which have had their piano and/or full scores issued in the context of the original solo instrument. This does not go for the Ravel Pavane, which had all of its melodic elements interwoven in the original score for two hands on one piano.

The version for English horn and piano, which may be found via the link given by Helen Gillespie, has some of the melodic stuff and some of the accompaniment moved from the piano to the English horn. But it is not a given matter that the same permutation of elements have been chosen for the tuba version issued by you.

Do you have a specific suggestion for the piano accompaniment intended for this tuba version of the Ravel Pavane?

Klaus