After combing through past TubeNet posts and topics about the Alexander Technique, such as viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8835&p=68035&hilit= ... que#p68035, I ask the question in the poll plus this question:
How important is it to study the Alexander Technique with someone such as John Henes who is a brass instrument player vs. a qualified AT teacher who does not necessarily play a wind instrument--or any instrument that must be held and/or balanced by the player?
Review of Alexander Technique Reactions
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Re: Review of Alexander Technique Reactions
I think the Alexander Technique can be summarized by a quote from Mr. Jacobs:
"Don't think. Just play."
"Don't think. Just play."
SD
I am convinced that 90% of the problems with rhythm, tone, intonation, articulation, technique, and overall prowess on the horn are related to air issues.
I am convinced that 90% of the problems with rhythm, tone, intonation, articulation, technique, and overall prowess on the horn are related to air issues.
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"The Inner Game" books are a lot cheaper, and (in my experience working with an AT teacher who was a good friend besides) just as effective.
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I've attended several Alexander Technique sessions and had a personal 'lesson.' It didn't really do anything more for my posture than just my own attention to posture and breathing. To me, it seemed a little like exaggerated transcendentalism. At least it got me thinking about my posture.
EDIT: I apologize for not answering the question...
EDIT: I apologize for not answering the question...
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I took an Alexander Technique course at NU with I believe Henes and thought the whole Alexander Technique philosophy garbage. I tried to be open minded during the course and John taught it well. But I still thought the whole thing rubbish.
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Hey Steve,
I took some Alexander lessons (free woo hoo!!) in grad school and I found them to be helpful, it showed me ways to use my body in a more stress free way, which helped me focus more on music and less on muscles. But, it was not the be all end all, but I think if the instructor was a musician it would have been a lot more helpful. Another thing to check out is body mapping, I've been doing some reading lately and found it pretty helpful, there is a book:
What Every Musician Needs to Know About the Body
http://focus-on-music.com/index.php?mai ... 911fec53b5" target="_blank
it's a little corny, but helpful,
also check out the stuff at :
http://mountainpeakmusic.com/" target="_blank
especially the breathing book it's very helpful.
and while on the subject, David Vining is a trombonist who developed focal dystonia of the embouchure, who made his way back using Alexander and body mapping,
check out his story:
http://www.davidvining.net/narrative.html" target="_blank
Bill
I took some Alexander lessons (free woo hoo!!) in grad school and I found them to be helpful, it showed me ways to use my body in a more stress free way, which helped me focus more on music and less on muscles. But, it was not the be all end all, but I think if the instructor was a musician it would have been a lot more helpful. Another thing to check out is body mapping, I've been doing some reading lately and found it pretty helpful, there is a book:
What Every Musician Needs to Know About the Body
http://focus-on-music.com/index.php?mai ... 911fec53b5" target="_blank
it's a little corny, but helpful,
also check out the stuff at :
http://mountainpeakmusic.com/" target="_blank
especially the breathing book it's very helpful.
and while on the subject, David Vining is a trombonist who developed focal dystonia of the embouchure, who made his way back using Alexander and body mapping,
check out his story:
http://www.davidvining.net/narrative.html" target="_blank
Bill
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I thought the Alexander Technique meant pushing down all kinds of odd valve combinations, playing almost no notes open, and pulling slides like a madman?? 
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Early on I had a teacher who was really into slide pulling who taught me to always have my left arm up and over the horn -- I became a “two handed player” pulling slides for almost every note. I would wrap myself around the horn.
This approach caused me quite a few issues, it was not detrimental, but I later learned that I was tiring easily and was quite tense and uncomfortable... this discomfort taught me to simply be too muscular with my overall approach to the tuba. I would go to the tuba, rather than bringing the tuba to me -- it caused me a lot of imbalance.
Late in undergrad I did some work at an Alexander workshop and did some private Alexander study. They analyzed my situation and we devised a new way to hold my horn which was *much* more ergonomic. This approach, coupled with grad study showing me that I did NOT need to be such an active slide puller made a radical difference in my playing. I took Henes’ class as well. All of this (diving into the ‘Jacobs’ world of playing in general) made me a much more grounded player. Learning how to hold the horn and sit correctly opened up a world of more efficient respiration, less overall fatigue and far far better control.
I’m a big proponent of Alexander if a student is having ergonomic issues, seems quite unnatural, or the horn seems to be an obstacle. Personally, I think it’s worth investigation for everyone, simply as it is about physical awareness. Some people naturally possess a good awareness, and some do not. I think when learning to play a wind instrument, physical awareness is important -- it goes hand-in-hand with philosophies of respiration as to where we utilize what the body already knows how to do, rather than trying to harness it and manipulate it in a forced inorganic manner.
To answer Steve’s question -- my first experience was with a couple of non-brass playing instructors. They watched me play and suggested improvements which helped me greatly. I later took Henes’ class where he did relate some of these concepts to brass playing. So, the brass playing part is a benefit, sure, but not a necessity to look into Alexander. Any qualified instructor should be able to understand and help you out. It was definitely worth the money in my case.
This approach caused me quite a few issues, it was not detrimental, but I later learned that I was tiring easily and was quite tense and uncomfortable... this discomfort taught me to simply be too muscular with my overall approach to the tuba. I would go to the tuba, rather than bringing the tuba to me -- it caused me a lot of imbalance.
Late in undergrad I did some work at an Alexander workshop and did some private Alexander study. They analyzed my situation and we devised a new way to hold my horn which was *much* more ergonomic. This approach, coupled with grad study showing me that I did NOT need to be such an active slide puller made a radical difference in my playing. I took Henes’ class as well. All of this (diving into the ‘Jacobs’ world of playing in general) made me a much more grounded player. Learning how to hold the horn and sit correctly opened up a world of more efficient respiration, less overall fatigue and far far better control.
I’m a big proponent of Alexander if a student is having ergonomic issues, seems quite unnatural, or the horn seems to be an obstacle. Personally, I think it’s worth investigation for everyone, simply as it is about physical awareness. Some people naturally possess a good awareness, and some do not. I think when learning to play a wind instrument, physical awareness is important -- it goes hand-in-hand with philosophies of respiration as to where we utilize what the body already knows how to do, rather than trying to harness it and manipulate it in a forced inorganic manner.
To answer Steve’s question -- my first experience was with a couple of non-brass playing instructors. They watched me play and suggested improvements which helped me greatly. I later took Henes’ class where he did relate some of these concepts to brass playing. So, the brass playing part is a benefit, sure, but not a necessity to look into Alexander. Any qualified instructor should be able to understand and help you out. It was definitely worth the money in my case.
"When you control sound, you control meat." -Arnold Jacobs