Arbans cover to cover

WoodSheddin · Post by **WoodSheddin** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 10:11 pm

bubbacox wrote:Arban can suck it! I'm too busy on TubeNet. I totally learn more about tubas here than I would using some stupid book that was written like a million years ago.

Good luck though!

What is a Yamaha Music School?

k001k47 · Post by **k001k47** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:23 am

I'll play through it with you.
I just need a copy of the arban book..

timdicarlo · Post by **timdicarlo** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:34 am

I'm curious what you mean by "work through." Are you just going to play each exercise or etude or what have you once, then move on? Or are you planning to spend time perfecting each one? I'm not suggesting one or the other, as I suppose it would depend mostly on your playing ability and need for improvement on the skills in each exercise; I'm just wondering.

Either way, sounds like a great idea. It'll sure give you plenty of material to keep those chops in shape! Good luck!

oedipoes · Post by **oedipoes** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:09 am

bubbacox wrote:Arban can suck it! I'm too busy on TubeNet. I totally learn more about tubas here than I would using some stupid book that was written like a million years ago.

Good luck though!

Arban's method will not learn you anything about tubas, it will learn you better playing technique.
Clarke and Arban are both very good method books for improving your playing.

Wim

timdicarlo · Post by **timdicarlo** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:31 am

Sounds grueling. Glad it's working well for you; it reassures me a little, since I'm doing basically the same thing in my lessons, but interspersed with solos, sightreading, other etude/method books, etc. Again, good luck, and keep us posted!

Alex C · Post by **Alex C** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:51 am

I've been playing umpteen eleventy hundred dozen years and I so have not played every exercise in the Arban book!

I am comfortable knowing that if you work on the Characteristic Studies in the the back of the book, it could take you umpteen eleventy hundred dozen years and we will be about even until then.

JHardisk · Post by **JHardisk** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:40 am

What a great idea! I'm in. Arbans... Tuba version, cover to cover. I've wanted to do this for a long time.

I play sections of this book often, but have never worked on every excercise. Obviously, some will take much longer than others!

Robert: how about we also track progress with videos? Play a few etudes from each section and post them to YouTube? Like a journal entry of sorts? I have no shame if you don't...

Of course, please don't feel obligated!

Any other takers?

ArnoldGottlieb · Post by **ArnoldGottlieb** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:46 am

A trumpet player I was just on the road with was doing this, he worked through 3 pages a day. I'm trying to do one page each day, although tuba being my double it doesn't get practiced every day. I'm working out of the trombone book an octave lower. Some stuff that looks easy is really not so, but it feels like improvement is happening. I'd join you guys, but I'm already into it, and at my slow rate you'll probably pass me soon.

With you in spirit.
Peace.
ASG

TUBAD83 · Post by **TUBAD83** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:41 pm

Great idea RC--I just ordered the book this morning and will go through it with ya on my new 25J "Mega Conn"

JJ

ArnoldGottlieb · Post by **ArnoldGottlieb** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:10 pm

bloke wrote:Putting aside sarcasm, the Arban (albeit with quite a few notable exceptions) favors "flat" keys and is designed to be played on a Bb instrument with three valves.

Sheepishly, I don't criticize anyone who would tackle this because (admittedly) I've never done it. I would, however (as I've certainly "played though" the Arban), find a combination of several other books (Kopprasch [transcribed from horn], Schlossberg...per the elephant [transcribed from trumpet], the extraordinarily difficult but extraordinarily beneficial 48 [transcribed from horn] etudes of Verne Reynolds) to probably - as a grouping - be more "super-technique" builders.

bloke "I believe I'd rather go on a diet with you than go through the Arban with you."

You are right Bloke, I'm doing it for the idea of finishing, and it seemed clever when I started. That's why I'll stay at 1 page a day. I have a long life ahead of me for other books.
On the other hand, I'm a vegetarian, so when do we start your new diet?

Peace.
ASG

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:33 pm

Playing Arban's cover-to-cover is an interesting idea.

I have always used (as I was taught by this method) Arban's as more of a "encyclopedia" or reference manual to turn to when I needed to address a particular technical issue. Thus I've never thought of it as being methodical or something to be worked through from cover to cover.

As you might have guessed by reading that, I have not played the book from cover to cover. Maybe someday...

Carroll · Post by **Carroll** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:45 pm

the elephant wrote:Anyone wanting to do something like this and who can read treble clef - try the Max Schlossberg trumpet book. It is much shorter than Arban's book but also an excellent method that translates well to tuba and euphonium.

I've done a similar thing with the Kopprasch book... but I went through and numbered the exercises 1-7 repeatedly. Then on Mondays I worked on ten 1s, Tuesday 2s. That keeps you from spending the entire session on one skill and helps to alleviate the tedium somewhat.

tubatom91 · Post by **tubatom91** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:49 pm

I just bought my Arban's book, but I've been working out of the Tyrell, Blazhevich, Kopprasch, and Rochut books previously, and now doing Brass Gym, Snedcor, and Arban's for school. I like The Blazhevich the best and the Rochut is my second favorite. All have their own positive aspects.

TUBAD83 · Post by **TUBAD83** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:47 pm

bloke wrote:Putting aside sarcasm, the Arban (albeit with quite a few notable exceptions) favors "flat" keys and is designed to be played on a Bb instrument with three valves.

OK--I will do it on my 20J---hey its in Bb and has three valves

JJ

ArnoldGottlieb · Post by **ArnoldGottlieb** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:14 pm

bloke wrote:
ArnoldGottlieb wrote: On the other hand, I'm a vegetarian, so when do we start your new diet?
Peace.
ASG
Most vegetarians that I know are kinda chubby...I suspect they munch on "funny brownies" (perhaps) a bit too enthusiastically.

bloke "Is there such a think as a barbecue bush?"

I'm not skinny but I just got back from a run in the mountains, so hopefully one day......
Right now, I've got some red beans, brown rice, corn, carrots, and tofu sausage in the rice cooker. While it cooks I'll go to the kitchen and practice Arbans.
Not so into the brownies, but I've got a couple of good bottles of Cabernet up here....
I'll go out and see if I can't hunt down a bush though.
Peace.
ASG

J. Laux · Post by **J. Laux** » Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:51 pm

I would so do this with you, except I have already hit my brick wall of Arbans that I have been stuck at for about a month

termite · Post by **termite** » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:50 am

Are we talking the original treble clef cornet Arban's or one of the bass clef versions. Will you be playing the same fingerings as a cornet player or in effect transposing the book - i.e. when you get to the Carnival of Venice which is in F major in treble clef (Concert Eb) and you're playing on CC tuba will you be playing in F or Eb major?

Regards

Gerard

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