How good are the chinese horns??

[Dan Schultz]

I think we are talking about 2 different horns hre. The colinbugsby tuba is almost definitely a Cerveny copy, as The Tinker surmised. The Ace CC, which continues to sell on ebay, appears to be a newer Miraphone 186-5U copy (larger bell, flatstep 5th valve.) This is the "gold standard" for a full sized, 4/4 horn.

I think you are correct.

[hald]

My first tuba was a used $400 no name Chinese 4/4, 4V, that I was told was a copy of a Yamaha. When I bought it I knew nothing about tubas. I sold it for slightly more than I paid for it. I now wish I had kept it. It turned out to be a very good tuba, even compared to much more expensive ones. It's low price and good playing qualities made it a great practice horn.

In a similar vein, I've also wondered why Spanish and South American instruments are not more popular in the U.S. My first CC tuba was a Spanish Consulet. In searching for a C euphonium I discovered Rott, which seems to be a northern European company that dominates in Spanish speaking countries. Interestingly, Spanish\South American designs often include bright colors on lacquer instruments, and a general slant towards playing more popular, party, and dance oriented music. Near where I live is a fast food drive-in where every Sunday afternoon they have mariachi dances in the parking lot. The instruments, especially the tuba, sound great. Yet I find little about these instrument makers on the web.
-hald

[Dan Schultz]

..... I've also wondered why Spanish and South American instruments are not more popular in the U.S. ....

That sort of puzzles me, too. While searching for a reed that would fit the huge mouthpiece on my old Linton (made by ORSI) contra-bass clarinet... I discovered from a well-known synthetic reed maker that there are a lot of bass saxophones being used in South America in stage bands in stead of basses and tubas. Bass saxes are are rarely ever seen here.

[Frank Ortega]

I just tried three new Dillon tubas that were fantastic.
Great response, intonation, and tone quality.

The new CC tuba is going to be great for entry level college and serious hs students.

If you are in the Woodbridge, NJ area, I highly suggest you try them out!

Frank Ortega
Band Director/Tubist

[bisontuba]

Hi-
See Matt Walters discussion on the topic:
https://www.dillonmusic.com/note_from_matt.html" target="_blank &
the thread re. the ' Schillaphone 186'....
mark

[tubamlb]

Hi
Yes , M&M Tuba started bringing in the Chinese Tubas 5 years ago after working with our Factory to build instruments that were affordable and played well, Giving Tubist a larger selection to chose from
We have M&M instrumets being played at schools and some very good Pro players as their first instruments
We at M&M Tubas are Tubist first and salesman second
There are factories copying our instrments and calling them made in Germany or what ever, that is part of doing business
M&M Stocks parts and service for all instruments they sell and has warrantee dealers in the US , Europe and South and Central America
I hope this clears up this confusion on The Chinese Instruments
There is more information at http://WWW.TUBAMM.COM" target="_blank
Thank you
M&M
Michael

[bigbob]

Michael are you saying that the Shiller is actualy a M&M?? or made by the same company..but with Germany written on them?? are you the rep for this area??Do you sell to Dillons? and Laab??Do you have a better price than the stores??Do Ya take trade inns<s>.. Just asking I'm curious and with limited funds<s> Do ya like art work<s> Anyway thanks for any info you can give me..............................bigbob http://www.rgisculptures.com" target="_blank

[imperialbari]

There are questions, which one should not expect answered by a businessman here in a public forum.

Klaus

[bigbob]

I gather mine are some of them??Sorry but whom should I ask??.........................................................bigbob www'rgisculptures.com

[imperialbari]

Contact the given businessman himself. One certain seller of Chinese made instruments has earned himself a reputation for not answering questions in a helpful way. You may draw your own conclusion from that.

Klaus

[bigbob]

I just asked the guy the questions I asked on the forum and a little more I'll see if he answers me thank you.........bigbob http://www.rgisculptures.com" target="_blank

[tubamlb]

Hi

Yes, M&M is the factory inporter from China , The other ( dealers) are selling these instruments here with their brand names and with different Countries on the bells
M&M started the line at the factory 6 years ago and has parts and service for all the instruments and are never undersold with price and service
Thank you
M&M
Michael
954 610 6251

[TubaTodd]

Michael,

You and your fellow competitors may be creating and cornering a new market. What can you tell us about future M&M tuba models? Someone had mentioned a possible 6/4 CC. (Perhaps they were joking) Are there any other "clones" planned for the future?

About 3 years ago when I was still a band director I had a 7th grade student whose dad (used to be a tuba player) had purchased an M&M BBb tuba for him. I didn't get a really good chance to see the horn or play it (he showed up at the concert with it), but I remember it being on par with other manufactured tubas. It looked nice.