Sam Gnagey's 6/4 CC
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Re: Sam Gnagey's 6/4 CC
There is an optical deception in the first photo around the bell. Still this tuba looks like having an immense throat. Are the bell proportions the same as with the old York’s and Conn’s? Or is this Martin even bigger?
I share the reservations about leather absorbing moisture. Has the vibration dampening been attempted by means of a synthetic material?
Some horn players prefer screw bells for the same reason.
The German high end maker Amrein offers absorbing brass rings as a solution for smaller brasses:
http://www.musik-amrein.com/gb/product/ ... tm?prod=11
Tuba equivalents might be a pain to make, and the leadpipe might make them impossible. But then they could be made in halves with clamps for a secure mount. IN the latter case, they wouldn’t need to be especially heavy gauge, as their own mechanical stiffness would not be a necessary consideration.
Klaus
I share the reservations about leather absorbing moisture. Has the vibration dampening been attempted by means of a synthetic material?
Some horn players prefer screw bells for the same reason.
The German high end maker Amrein offers absorbing brass rings as a solution for smaller brasses:
http://www.musik-amrein.com/gb/product/ ... tm?prod=11
Tuba equivalents might be a pain to make, and the leadpipe might make them impossible. But then they could be made in halves with clamps for a secure mount. IN the latter case, they wouldn’t need to be especially heavy gauge, as their own mechanical stiffness would not be a necessary consideration.
Klaus
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Re: Sam Gnagey's 6/4 CC
Maybe if it absorbs moisture it could be a dampening device as well as a damping device.imperialbari wrote:I share the reservations about leather absorbing moisture. Has the vibration dampening been attempted by means of a synthetic material?
Rick "backing away quickly" Denney
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Re: Sam Gnagey's 6/4 CC
Ohhhh Rick that was a graoner!
There is no optical illusion regarding the bell and its throatiess. Looks more European than American to me. And its light weight could be more evidence in that direction. Regardless, the horn is reported to be quite the Sound Howitzer. Go Sam!
Hope the new owner is having more fun than originally planned !!!!
There is no optical illusion regarding the bell and its throatiess. Looks more European than American to me. And its light weight could be more evidence in that direction. Regardless, the horn is reported to be quite the Sound Howitzer. Go Sam!
Hope the new owner is having more fun than originally planned !!!!
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Re: Sam Gnagey's 6/4 CC
Rick has to work hard to keep up his board status as Residual Genus. He does a fine job.
The light in the first photo makes part of the left flare profile go away leading to an even mightier impression of the throat. I assume the bell and large branches are pre-WWII. Anyway I don’t remember any European maker coming up with such large tubing until Hirsbrunner started the replica game some 25 or 30 years ago. OK, there was the Paxman CCC, but that was a one-off being the brainchild of a genius cartoonist.
There have been comments on the Meinl tone ring being heavy and skewing the balance towards top heaviness. Where is the law against making a lighter tone ring?
Klaus
The light in the first photo makes part of the left flare profile go away leading to an even mightier impression of the throat. I assume the bell and large branches are pre-WWII. Anyway I don’t remember any European maker coming up with such large tubing until Hirsbrunner started the replica game some 25 or 30 years ago. OK, there was the Paxman CCC, but that was a one-off being the brainchild of a genius cartoonist.
There have been comments on the Meinl tone ring being heavy and skewing the balance towards top heaviness. Where is the law against making a lighter tone ring?
Klaus
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Re: Sam Gnagey's 6/4 CC
DavidK wrote:Hope the new owner is having more fun than originally planned !!!!

'Nuff said.
-Tim (I'll post more on the horn itself later, just wanted to duck in and be witty while I had a free minute.)
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Re: Sam Gnagey's 6/4 CC
Would brass rod and a roller work.. Roll it to the circomfrence and push it in?? I don't know just asking.bigbob http://www.rgisculptures.com" target="_blank
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Re: Sam Gnagey's 6/4 CC
Way back on Page 1....
MartyNeilan wrote: Make a brass one and call it a "tone ring" like MW did.
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Re: Sam Gnagey's 6/4 CC
Sam (or anyone who knows),
The horn's raw brass finish is amazingly uniform in appearance (moderately shiny, but no patina that I can tell). Did you buff the horn or use some form of cleaner (Brasso, etc) to get that look? This truly looks like art.
Bravo!!

PS: MORE PICS!!!!!! <droolz>
The horn's raw brass finish is amazingly uniform in appearance (moderately shiny, but no patina that I can tell). Did you buff the horn or use some form of cleaner (Brasso, etc) to get that look? This truly looks like art.

PS: MORE PICS!!!!!! <droolz>
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Re: Sam Gnagey's 6/4 CC
I was talking about brass rod maybe a 1/4" maybe more not cast like is in the MW.. anyway I was just curious having never used or saw very many Thanks..........................................................bigbob http://www.rgisculptures.com" target="_blankMartyNeilan wrote:Way back on Page 1....
MartyNeilan wrote: Make a brass one and call it a "tone ring" like MW did.