How big is this tuba?

J.c. Sherman · Post by **J.c. Sherman** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:42 pm

I think the Rudy is pretty much the only playable BAT bigger than the Alex 164 - which is also immense. But the Alex would ultimately orbit a Rudy 6/4.

The Holton is a "main stream" 6/4, the classic American BAT. Not much is going to compete with it.

J.c.S.

tubarnak · Post by **tubarnak** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:25 am

This is where I've seen the most Rudy's; in Germany - where else...
http://www.tubaforum.de/html/kaufen.html" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Lots of other kaisers, too!
If you want to practice your german...

I haven't found it too hard to buy/sell in Germany.

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:39 am

tubarnak wrote:This is where I've seen the most Rudy's; in Germany - where else...
http://www.tubaforum.de/html/kaufen.html" target="_blank

Lots of other kaisers, too!

Now that Melton 6/4 kaiser looks interesting!

bigbob · Post by **bigbob** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:53 am

That Melton is a beautiful horn...I bet that would sound good rumbeling the rafters in my music room and I'm sure the neighbors will love me more<s> That "L" after the price is that Lira??I wonder what it would cost to ship from over seas?? I'm going to ask if they take payments and a nice trade in<s>Fixed income screws ya sometimes.. gotta sell more sculptures haha..bigbob PS> Google will translate that page from Germany..

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:07 am

bigbob wrote:That "L" after the price is that Lira??

It is Euros - 4250 = about $5800 to you

I think I remember hearing that the Melton 6/4 uses the same bell as the Neptune - so I reckon would produce great sound

bigbob · Post by **bigbob** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:11 am

Thank You Neptune!! .. Is Melton a great instrument??We don't hear of them too much here...PS. I got your picture.. now to do it justice.. your friend in Pa.....bigbob

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:20 am

Melton is the European name for Meinl-Weston

Steve Marcus · Post by **Steve Marcus** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:43 am

Has the 6/4 Melton (under either the Melton or M-W nomenclature) ever been shown in the US at TubaDome, a dealer, or an exhibit?

bigbob · Post by **bigbob** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:12 pm

Bandmaster wrote:

WoW!! is that Tuba an opticle illusion? or is that tuba actually that big?? what kind is it??Great picture!!! is the horn yours??................................................bigbob

The Big Ben · Post by **The Big Ben** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:39 pm

bigbob wrote:
Bandmaster wrote: Look at this big honkin' horn
WoW!! is that Tuba an opticle illusion? or is that tuba actually that big?? what kind is it??Great picture!!! is the horn yours??................................................bigbob

Iv'e seen this before but can't remember the location of the website. It's in a manufacturer's museum. It was made specially to be "big". As I remember it, the author of the website played it and said the only thing it had going for it was that it was big.

Maybe Bandmaster remembers where he got it...

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:48 pm

It seems to me that those triple XXXb gianormous tubas are only really novelty items to impress with their physical size. The Rudolf Meinl 6/4 must be the largest tuba* that has any real musical performance value?

*Although don't forget the Conn Jumbo 46K/48K sousaphone which must be just as big as the Rudy (maybe even bigger?) - but just in a different shape.

sloan · Post by **sloan** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:52 pm

ben wrote:I believe the gynormous tuba is a FF, not even a BBBb... I still would love to hear it I just don't want to have to play on it ever day...

So...what would it take to cut it to CC?

Tuba-G Bass · Post by **Tuba-G Bass** » Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:51 pm

Here is a picture Lee Stofer took of a Silver 6/4 Rudy BBb and a Lacquer 5/4 Rudy BBb, similar height, just thicker.

Big Rudys 001 (Medium).jpg

and a shot of me playing my 5/4 Rudy in the Bangor, PA Tuba Christmas.

Paul's Rudy at Bangor Tuba Christmas.jpg

Playing in the Moravian Music Festival band, with a St Petersburg to the right.

Belmont Moravian Music Festival Rudy St Pete.jpg

Wyvern · Post by **Wyvern** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:32 am

Interesting that the silver Rudy 6/4 pictured has lyre box. Fancy marching with that baby?!!!

I am impressed to see you playing standing with 5/4 Rudy 'Tuba-G Bass'

Tuba-G Bass · Post by **Tuba-G Bass** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:12 am

Thanks Neptune, I was using the Neotech harness, thinking about getting the MW now.
It looks like the 5/4 has a removable leadpipe, while the 6/4 does not.
They call the 5/4 "Bayreuth", I wonder if the Big Guy has a name?

bigbob · Post by **bigbob** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:23 am

Do you have a harness on to hold that big baby up??I think I see two black straps on your bottom bow??With my bad back I would have to sit for everything<s>...bigbob

Virtuoso · Post by **Virtuoso** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:56 pm

What are the dimensions and bore size of the 6/4 Rudolf Meinl?

tbn.al · Post by **tbn.al** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:43 am

Adam Peck wrote:22" bell. .868" bore. Apox. 41" tall.

I believe Lee told me it was 26mm at the 4th valve. Either going in or coming out, I don't remember. But in either case that is huge, over an inch. It played that big too. This is not your "Old Man's Tuba".

bigbob · Post by **bigbob** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:33 am

Is this 6/4 Kurath a CC?? any pictures??...Thanks..................................bigbob

UTSAtuba · Post by **UTSAtuba** » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:48 am

To those wondering about (a) Kurath (hint hint it's for sale hint hint):

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=37742" target="_blank

And pictures link (I know it's on the above ad, but I know some people will look all over for it):

http://s855.photobucket.com/albums/ab11 ... 3050%20CC/" target="_blank

Joseph

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