I like that one. I hope you didn't offend any pigs though...Matthew Gilchrest wrote:Wrestling with folk online (like bloke) is like wrestling with a pig in the mud. All you do is get dirty and you figure out that the pig simply enjoys it.
so.. I got a trombone.
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Said Gandalf (approximately), of talking to himself, "It's a habit of the old; we speak to the wisest person in the room."tuba4sissies wrote:i read every single post each one of you made. it all made sense. i took none of it personally. but it ended up as a bunch of bs to me. it seems everywhere bloke post, he starts a magor amount of off topic post.
Let us have our fun, and you use what's useful and ignore the rest. This isn't just your forum, okay?
As to B.S., I would suggest this: Buried in all that B.S. is a great deal of life experience. You may not understand it now, but you possibly might someday. Then, you'll think back to something Bloke said and you'll go, "Now I get it." You might even think of it before making a big mistake. But maybe not.
I would also suggest this: You are not the only person reading this thread, and the long-time regulars of this forum are pretty good at answering a narrow question a little more broadly, so that the answer addresses not only that one question, but also all the other similar questions that don't get asked.
Old people with a little wisdom have this annoying tendency, too: They see past the self-deception included in many beginner questions and address the underlying problem rather than just answering the question. The reason they do this is because that provides more value to the questioner, even if he's not prepared to listen.
And then, some old people just like to hear themselves talk. It'll do you no harm to quietly walk away if you don't want to hear it.
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Re: so...I got a trombone
Allow me to rample...TubaRay wrote:"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt." This may not be an exact quote...
It turns out that there is no clear attribution to this quote. I've seen it various ways, attributed to Mark Twain, Abraham Lincoln, Samuel Johnson, and several others.
But here is where I think it comes from:
Proverbs 17:28 "Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding."
And it's likely that Lincoln, Twain, and even Johnson may have based the versions which are attributed to them on this common source.
But I have to say that not too many of us here fare very well according to this advice.
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That is quite the truth. I've not played a pah-pah in years.NeilMacQuarrie wrote:
You fellows make life too hard for yoursleves! I much prefer to go oom and let someone else take care of the pah-pah part.
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If the rest of the band drags, you can quite often help the situation by 'pushing' the tempo;) The band tends to follow the lower voices.
I have to say Doc's post is right on. What I tend to practice is much 'harder' then anything I tend to play in band. As well my pieces for auditions are above and beyond anything i've seen in bands. The hardest music i've played as a group would be small quintet stuff, some of that tends to be a challenge.
Jacob"who tends to find range to be a problem more then technicality in quintet pieces" morgan..
P.S. I have a trombone to, Can I join the club?
I have to say Doc's post is right on. What I tend to practice is much 'harder' then anything I tend to play in band. As well my pieces for auditions are above and beyond anything i've seen in bands. The hardest music i've played as a group would be small quintet stuff, some of that tends to be a challenge.
Jacob"who tends to find range to be a problem more then technicality in quintet pieces" morgan..
P.S. I have a trombone to, Can I join the club?

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The other problem may be the horn. My wife has a Selmer Paris Bass (Low Eb) that was owned by a very good woodwind repair guy. He was mainly a sax player and used this on big band gigs. The lower pads has resonators on 'em. That sucker can HONK pretty darn well. She does used the Selmer C* and she can play pretty good, but if she starts playing regularly again, I'll suggest the Bay mouthpiece. Also, are those synthetic reeds you linked to? Do those work from what you've heard?bloke wrote:i use selmer C star by the way.
Yeah, we stock those...because folks are autoprogrammed to request them...
...' half the price and half the sound of a Charles Bay.
Let's derail this topic a wee bit more...
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Durn!... I gotta go back to school.
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so...I got a trombone
I know what you mean, Dan. Me, too.
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tbone playing wont' hurt tuba chops.
Though I highly doubt your at a level where learning other instruments(mouthpieces) And such will improve your range on tuba. I suspect your range is just developing in general, with or without the tbone.
When i was younger I decided to learn sax, I taught myself on the side when I should had been playing tuba. My tuba playing suffered.
The problem is, when you goto all region, state, or scholarships on your main instrument (bass clarinet). You can't say, o well I can't play that piece very well, but I can play tuba tbone euph sax and trumpet...It just doesn't work that way. And by trying to learn all these instruments your main instrument is whats hurting.
I'd back down on learning all these instruments, if your gonna be a band director you'll learn em all in college, if your gonna be a performance then.. Well .. shouldn't u be practicing your main axe any spare moment you have>?
Unless you get straight perfects at region, and make the highest chair on your main axe... you have room to improve. and If you do get straight perfects and make 1st.. well you wouldn't be trying to learn several other instruments(at the same time), because you would be dedicated to one, not twenty.
Jacob"not trying to be a jerk"
Though I highly doubt your at a level where learning other instruments(mouthpieces) And such will improve your range on tuba. I suspect your range is just developing in general, with or without the tbone.
When i was younger I decided to learn sax, I taught myself on the side when I should had been playing tuba. My tuba playing suffered.
The problem is, when you goto all region, state, or scholarships on your main instrument (bass clarinet). You can't say, o well I can't play that piece very well, but I can play tuba tbone euph sax and trumpet...It just doesn't work that way. And by trying to learn all these instruments your main instrument is whats hurting.
I'd back down on learning all these instruments, if your gonna be a band director you'll learn em all in college, if your gonna be a performance then.. Well .. shouldn't u be practicing your main axe any spare moment you have>?
Unless you get straight perfects at region, and make the highest chair on your main axe... you have room to improve. and If you do get straight perfects and make 1st.. well you wouldn't be trying to learn several other instruments(at the same time), because you would be dedicated to one, not twenty.
Jacob"not trying to be a jerk"
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so...I got a trombone
"i can be slouched back with my instrument at a 45* angle to my mouth and still be rippin' stuff out like no tomorrow."
I know I'm impressed!
I know I'm impressed!
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Re: so...I got a trombone
So modest he is.TubaRay wrote:"i can be slouched back with my instrument at a 45* angle to my mouth and still be rippin' stuff out like no tomorrow."
I know I'm impressed!
If you make it to college and are 'sooo good' on bass clarinet, tuba, trombone, and bass trombone. That you have to ask the college college to tell you which one you should pursue.. Well then you my friend are a prodigy.
If your even half decent on tuba you will soon find yourself bored with the music Most highschool bands play.If all us tuba players simply switched to another instrument when we got to a point we could play our band pieces great while "slacking"... Then well alot of us wouldn't be playing tuba anymore.
does your band director not have any problems with you learning how to play the entire band? I know that mine would defiantly advise against taking time away from tuba to learn another instrument, for no real reason.
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Sounds like you should put in some time on strings. Have you tried violin?tuba4sissies wrote:well... more so... it will be a loss for me if i do. and my parents wont let me.. i just dont put heart into practicing bass anymore. its no fun for some reason... but i can be slouched back with my instrument at a 45* angle to my mouth and still be rippin' stuff out like no tomorrow.
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so...I got a trombone
I believe the only way I'd like to go back to being 14 again would be if I could take my very old brain with me. Unfortunately, that would mean that I wouldn't be able to know everything(again).
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I don't think so. Violin is fiercely competitive lots-of-notes-per-square inch kind of stuff. Very difficult to make a claim of being a violin virtuoso--it seems that you're always up against someone who was playing Paganini at 7.. OTOH, one appears to get a deeper understanding of music as a result.tuba4sissies wrote: chuck - i tried viola when i was about 9-10. when i would get bored easily with things. i didnt enjoy practicing as i dont know. but if i picked up string again, it would be cello. but i am of the edge of learning electric bass guitar. so does that count?
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As a warning to all interested parties, I highly recommend verifying once, twice and thrice that you go to www.bonerama.net to check this stuff out. Don't mistake it for bonerama.com and experience the same surprise I did.Doc wrote:Tuba4sissies,
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http://www.bonerama.net/audio/TheMouse.ram
http://www.bonerama.net/audio/Frankenstein.ram
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