Which F tuba to order?

[kanstulbrass]

Well, I've finally succumed and will shortly be ordering an F horn after 17 odd years playing Eb. The only problem is which one!!

I've tried a PT10, but found that it was too stuffy below f just below the stave (although it was amazing from that note and up)

I've tried a couple of PT15s and found them to be a little better, but still feels more of a compromise all over.

My favourite F so far is the MW 45s-lz that my teacher has - to me it seems to have a great sound all over, as well as being nice and open down below. The only problem is that it costs a little more than I was hoping to spend.

Are there any other suggestions based on my findings so far? I'd also welcome comments on the 'Firebird'

Thanks in advance,


Simon


BTW - coming from a good Besson 982 EEb with my Contra being the mighty Thor.

You should definitely try to get your hands on the new Kanstul Model 80 F tuba. At a masterclass given by John Van Houten last week, the consensus was that it had a better, more soloistic sound than the Petrushka and that the low C was the best on any F tuba. Those comments come from John and his students and not from the Kanstul sales manager. As well, the price is comparable to the Petrushka but of course the Kanstul is made in California.

[toobagrowl]

^ I'd love to try the Kanstul tubas. I have heard very good things about them. I have yet to see one here on the East Coast though I would especially be interested in their BBb tubas. It's refreshing to have some great high-quality tubas made here again

[tclements]

WARNING: HIGHLY OPINIONATED MATERIAL FOLLOWING!!!!

The best piston F tuba for the money these days is the Yamaha 822, if you want a large horn. For a small, solo F tuba, the 621. PLIUS both these horns come with a hard, airplane-ready case. Admitedly, the sound is a bit PLAIN, but for most situations, these are great tubas. If you like the 822, but want something with more character, I can suggest the Gronitz PF-125. All of the great things about the 822, but with more color to the sound. I have played several Hirsbrunners that I like as well. As for rotary F's, I like the Gronitz FZ-127 or the large Mirafone 181-6U (I prefer the gold brass version of this tuba). I like the Kodiak, but there were design problems for me on this tuba, easily remediable. For a light, small F tuba, NOTHING beats the Alexander sound. Again, I prefer gold brass.

Having said that, many GREAT players play instruments by other builders and mine is only one man's experience.

If I might suggest, play everything in your price range and purchase the tuba that SOUNDS the way you like it. Try not to be swayed by maker, or type of valve.

Happy hunting!

[tclements]

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