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opportunity to buy a Holton (BAT?)
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opportunity to buy a Holton (BAT?)
Opinions please?
Found this topic: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11265" target="_blank looks exactly the same. Not a small tuba
Found this topic: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11265" target="_blank looks exactly the same. Not a small tuba
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Re: opportunity to buy a Holton (BAT?)
Doesn't look like a BAT from that angle. Depends on the price. How are the valves?
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Re: opportunity to buy a Holton (BAT?)
It definately looks smaller than my Holton 345. The first valve slide is not plumbed the same either. Holton made a 3 valve bell front version that was, I believe, called the model 340, but it was plumbed just like the 345, just minus the 4th valve. This horn appears to be smaller through the main wrap and the bell.
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1966 Holton 345 | 1955 York-Master | 1939 York 716 | 1940 York 702 | 1968 Besson 226 | 1962 Miraphone 186 | 1967 Olds | 1923 Keefer EEb | 1895 Conn Eb | 1927 Conn 38K | 1919 Martin Helicon

1966 Holton 345 | 1955 York-Master | 1939 York 716 | 1940 York 702 | 1968 Besson 226 | 1962 Miraphone 186 | 1967 Olds | 1923 Keefer EEb | 1895 Conn Eb | 1927 Conn 38K | 1919 Martin Helicon
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Re: opportunity to buy a Holton (BAT?)
Got some measurements from the seller. Height 105 centimeters and width 42 centimeters. Doesn't seem to be BAT size after all?!
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Re: opportunity to buy a Holton (BAT?)
I have the same horn, in silverplate. It's at my dad's house and don't play it anymore. I'd say it is a full 5/4 size tuba. Sound is huge, deep and beautiful - similar to a 6/4 York CC/BBb, but a bit "huskier", typical of old Holtons. IMO, old Holtons are like slightly huskier sounding old Yorks. Probably why I like 'emWilco wrote:Opinions please?
Found this topic: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11265" target="_blank" target="_blank looks exactly the same. Not a small tuba
Anyway, getting to intonation........from what I remember:
F right below staff and C in staff are flat. Eb, E and F in staff are all a bit sharp. You have to pull first slide for the sharp Eb in staff and lip down the E and F. Pull for the typical sharp CC and BB below staff.
Response and build are great and it's heavy. Kind of a limiting horn, though, because it's bell front and a 3 valver.