converting Conn BBb sousaphones to Conn BBb helicons

The bulk of the musical talk
Post Reply
User avatar
iiipopes
Utility Infielder
Utility Infielder
Posts: 8580
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:10 am

Re: converting Conn BBb sousaphones to Conn BBb helicons

Post by iiipopes »

bloke, curious question: why couldn't the main tuning slide just be lengthened? Would it have stuck out onto the bugle? I thought the old Conn true helicons had the same valve block with just a longer main tuning slide, and the souzys had a shorter main tuning slide?
Jupiter JTU1110
"Real" Conn 36K
SousaSaver
5 valves
5 valves
Posts: 1133
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:19 pm

Re: converting Conn BBb sousaphones to Conn BBb helicons

Post by SousaSaver »

bloke wrote: As simple as it appears, this was no walk-in-the-park; The bore of my upper mouthpipe had to start and finish the same as a Conn upper mouthpipe, and the footprint (relative beginning and ending points in space) had to be the same. Finally, curving tubing this severely and keeping it round (if you are just a bloke with a shop) is a bit of a challenge as well.
"No walk in the park" is being modest. This is fine work by any standard. Did you use a circular piece of wood to bend? How did you maintain such a perfect circle AND the proper angle on the pipe? I am always striving to learn new tricks from those who know more than I. :)
SousaSaver
5 valves
5 valves
Posts: 1133
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:19 pm

Re: converting Conn BBb sousaphones to Conn BBb helicons

Post by SousaSaver »

Bloke, what about doubling back the main tuning slide like Harv has done on this 20K's added 4th valve tuning slide:
Image
User avatar
iiipopes
Utility Infielder
Utility Infielder
Posts: 8580
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:10 am

Re: converting Conn BBb sousaphones to Conn BBb helicons

Post by iiipopes »

Thanks for explaining my off-the-wall question. I understand better now.
Jupiter JTU1110
"Real" Conn 36K
Harvey Hartman
TubeNet Sponsor
TubeNet Sponsor
Posts: 142
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2004 7:56 am
Location: Boyertown,Pa.
Contact:

Re: converting Conn BBb sousaphones to Conn BBb helicons

Post by Harvey Hartman »

Wow !! Great idea!! Very nice work, Your the Man, Joe!!! Thanks for showing your WORK & IDEAS
SousaSaver
5 valves
5 valves
Posts: 1133
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:19 pm

Re: converting Conn BBb sousaphones to Conn BBb helicons

Post by SousaSaver »

Thanks for the info!

Don't be embarrassed to use odd stuff. I use a plastic hammer and a small bowling ball to remove dents from timpani bowls. Why? Because it's what I have that will work.

Note to self; get a croquet ball... :)
User avatar
imperialbari
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 7461
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:47 am

Re: converting Conn BBb sousaphones to Conn BBb helicons

Post by imperialbari »

All these fine efforts, including the lengthening of the main tuning slide, done with one purpose:

Avoiding a CC helicon!

Klaus
Post Reply