What is "woofiness"?

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The opposit of a (Bright edgy sound. Like when you see the sun rise :wink )
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The lack of a core, definable sound.

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"phhhooooo", instead of "TAAAAAH!"

Like trying to listen to trumpet music through a sub-woofer.

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Ouch. Hard to argue with that, though, Dale.
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And then there's this stuff, named for Woofert Counny, Kentucky...
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Please don’t be too scared about being too woofy. There are companies making money from selling stuff with an even worse nomenclature. And my two subwoofy things aren’t tubas, even if one of them is a Yamaha.

And the center of the doughnut isn’t where the strawberry jelly is?

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imperialbari wrote:And the center of the doughnut isn’t where the strawberry jelly is?
No. It's where the hole is.

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Woofy:

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Not woofy:

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That's right, Rick - woofiness is a condition that can be fixed!
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Woof:

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Not Woof:

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Both:

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GC wrote:Woof:

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Not Woof:

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Both:

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Shouldn't that last one be "bofe"? :oops:
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Lacking core and color to tone. Can be poor tuba, or mouthpiece choice, but most likely the player
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If we're gonna do dogs (which I was previously specifically avoiding), then let's get the right ones. A non-woofy dog is not a yap-dog. A non-woofy tuba does not yap. Yap dogs have no place any any discussions of tubas, and should only be discussed on saxophone and other non-musical forums.

Woofy (no, I had no problem with the bloodhound, whose bark sounds like "whoahhhhhhhhh":

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Not woofy (but still big):

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OK, Rick. Can you follow that with something about how to produce a "world class" woofy sound?
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Very spread, very thin, lacking not one, three centers.

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Come on, Rick. Non-woof includes anything that doesn't woof, including yappers, yodlers, howlers, and yippers. And I've heard a few tubas I'd call yappers.
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fulerzoo wrote:I somethimes play next to a fellow that has a distinct "oink" sound in his low range. I propose this is a whole new class of "woofiness".
No, it's a whole new class of shitty playing, but I've heard (and produced) quite a bit of oinkiness that was all too clear.

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Eliot Ness' brother.
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I must say this thread brought quite a chuckle and tear of enjoyment. I'm glad Dale didn't over state his opinion on the subject and that Rick provided the visual clarification necessary to understand the question completely. Thank you to all for improving my Saturday. :D
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