new(old) triple-tongue method

[DelVento]

Such an intellectual discussion on something so simple! Just do it!!!!

[Amilcare]

The problem that many people here seem to have is the fact that they are Americans and cannot imagine anyone using anything but English.

Our T is not Arban's T. In fact, it is a very poor articulation for music. Among other things it may cause one to have many other problems. The most serious is an involuntary closing of the throat during most articulations.

There are too many shortcuts being used in the public schools. These cause many frustrations that further discourage many students. More than twenty years ago an economics professor/ trombonist theorized that the better general pedagogy resulted from the loss of our skills as a viable economic venture.

There's a lot of good and bad info out there. We must be careful.

BTW, the best thing about Ligner's approach is the extremely methodical arrangement of gradually complicated exercises. No other book is so precise in exploring the tiny skills that will assure a player a secure acquisition of this necessary skill.

Finally, one can explore the terra incognita of the "transition" from single to multiple articulation. With Ligner's technique the single tongue does not exist as we want to think of it.

Also, to the undergrad, read the Tarr/Dickey book and tell me this is a simple subject. It is only the misguided education system that makes it seem simple. Nothing is simple to real artists, they make it seem that way.

[Amilcare]

This is just to renew this thread.

[Amilcare]

As to the ancient attempts at linguistics, quite interesting but not germane;-)

French has a "hard C." "TU-CU" in French would be pronounced as "TU-KU," but Arban and the flautists he stole it from wrote "K," a letter essentially foreign to the French language.

I really don't care about silly suggestions. Ligner was a respected performer, arranger, and teacher. His recognition as a master teacher by the Ministry of Education is a fact. Sadly, we will likely never know why he received it. Perhaps it was for this very book.

[BVD Press]

The Ligner books are now up on the Cimarron Music Press site and in two versions currently:

Euphonium
Tuba

http://www.cimarronmusic.com/

Wishing all well,