VMI model 3171 Euphonium - opinions please?

[hokkmike]

In my search for a euphonium or bass I have been offered a private sale of a VMI model 3171 Euphonium in "95%" condition for $800. Includes hard case and two mouthpieces.

I am also looking at a Yamaha YEP 321 for $800 and a Yamaha 321S for $1049. Both in in excellent condition.

I know you can't decide for me but your opinion are the most valuable out there.

With much appreciation, what do you think-? and THANKS!

[tclements]

NO QUESTION, I'd go for the 321S, if all horns are in good condition.

[Rick F]

NO QUESTION, I'd go for the 321S, if all horns are in good condition.

I agree, the YEP-321.

[bearphonium]

Yep, the YEP.

[pgym]

Note that the VMI 3171 is large shank; the 321 (unless the previous owner had it modified) is small shank. For my money, I'd go with a large shank over a small shank horn every time.

[Kevin Hendrick]

That's hilarious.

I was getting ready to suggest, "Buy the better-condition Yamaha, and install a large shank receiver," when I saw that someone else had addressed the shank issue.

The 321 mouthpipe tube is reasonably large bore, and it should be easy to locate a stock large shank receiver that will fit well. I believe you would enjoy playing a YEP-321 with a larger-than-small-shank-will-allow mouthpipe backbore.

Good to know that -- I know people have mentioned swapping the standard leadpipe for one from a 642, but a receiver swap sounds a lot easier (and less expensive).

[Kevin Hendrick]

Kevin,

There was a (now-corrected) typo in my post: "mouthpipe" has been corrected to "mouthpiece".

(' should have no effect on your response)

Figured that's what you meant -- 'preciate the confirmation.

[mclaugh]

That's hilarious.

I was getting ready to suggest, "Buy the better-condition Yamaha, and install a large shank receiver," when I saw that someone else had addressed the shank issue.

The 321 mouthpipe tube is reasonably large bore, and it should be easy to locate a stock large shank receiver that will fit well.

And therefore create a significant constriction at the mouthpiece-leadpipe interface, significantly altering the slotting, resistance, and intonation of the horn.

Hmm ... wonder what a repair tech wouldn't mention something like that. Couldn't be because he sees a chance to make a fast buck, could it?

[hokkmike]

" I believe you would enjoy playing a YEP-321 with a larger-than-small-shank-will-allow mouthpiece backbore."

Boy, about half of that (underlined) is still Greek to me. But I'll get it.

I should know which horn tomorrow. I am like a kid with anticipation. (I am probably not mature enough to be on here)

[Levaix]

(I am probably not mature enough to be on here)

I really, REALLY doubt that.