stage deportment
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Re: stage deportment
Timely! How about a woman who wears a big red bow in her hair while everyone on stage is in formal black? I don't get how she could not see that the bow is inappropriate.
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Practicing results in increased atmospheric CO2 thus causing global warming.
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Re: stage deportment
pet peeves:
*noodling on stage before/after
*cases, bags, backpacks, purses and other luggage on stage
*any dress/clothing/costume that calls attention to itself
****sub-category A: women who wear "fashion" (even if it's black) when the men
are identically dressed in tux/tails. Please - pick a hemline/neckline/fabric
and stick to it. Oh yes - 4+" heels...really?
****sub-category B: soloists/conductors who wear a "fashion" that is so weird that the audience
is still whispering about it in the second movement
*audience members who show up dressed 1 notch dressier or 3 notches less dressy than the performers
****shorts, flip-flops, and sleeveless T's for an evening event where the ensemble is wearing black tie?
*conductors who "conduct" the soloist's rubato passages, one beat behind, leaving the ensemble to find the entrances on its own.
*toss up - audiences who applaud between movements/conductors & players who exchange obvious shrugs and smiles as a commentary on the audience applauding between movements
*toss up - audiences who applaud 0.00001 second after the last note of the piece sounds (demonstrating their deep knowledge of the score and a profound ignorance of the music) / conductors who hold their pose and stand silent for 10 seconds at the end of a piece.
*F. The Princeton Band
*people who can't spell "Sloan"
*noodling on stage before/after
*cases, bags, backpacks, purses and other luggage on stage
*any dress/clothing/costume that calls attention to itself
****sub-category A: women who wear "fashion" (even if it's black) when the men
are identically dressed in tux/tails. Please - pick a hemline/neckline/fabric
and stick to it. Oh yes - 4+" heels...really?
****sub-category B: soloists/conductors who wear a "fashion" that is so weird that the audience
is still whispering about it in the second movement
*audience members who show up dressed 1 notch dressier or 3 notches less dressy than the performers
****shorts, flip-flops, and sleeveless T's for an evening event where the ensemble is wearing black tie?
*conductors who "conduct" the soloist's rubato passages, one beat behind, leaving the ensemble to find the entrances on its own.
*toss up - audiences who applaud between movements/conductors & players who exchange obvious shrugs and smiles as a commentary on the audience applauding between movements
*toss up - audiences who applaud 0.00001 second after the last note of the piece sounds (demonstrating their deep knowledge of the score and a profound ignorance of the music) / conductors who hold their pose and stand silent for 10 seconds at the end of a piece.
*F. The Princeton Band
*people who can't spell "Sloan"
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Re: stage deportment
Good list, Sloane, but you're going to have to explain the Princeton Band. Note: I am not nor have I ever been a Princeton Band member and I do not play one on TV.sloan wrote:pet peeves:
*noodling on stage before/after
One of my pet peeves is playing licks on stage. One of the most revered horn players in the US drove his colleagues mad by playing the licks in the dressing room, on the stage and after the performance.
I think it tells the audience that you either need the practice or don't know the part. Personally, I feel like if I don't have the part by the time the concert starts, 2 or 3 extra shots at it won't make it better.
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"Holding the Bordognian Fabric of the Universe together through better pitch, one note at a time."
Practicing results in increased atmospheric CO2 thus causing global warming.
"Holding the Bordognian Fabric of the Universe together through better pitch, one note at a time."
Practicing results in increased atmospheric CO2 thus causing global warming.
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Re: stage deportment
Sorry, but I've got to have my water with me when I play. I don't keep it in a giant, neon green bottle though. But ditto to everything else.
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Re: stage deportment
I suggest performers or "budding performers" watch several service band concerts and observe their behavior, dress, and even facial deportment. Those not actively performing do nothing to detract from the active musical exercises going on. Those that are performing put the emphasis exclusively on the music and the instrument. NO RED BOWS IN THOSE BANDS
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Re: stage deportment
Dr. SlownAlex C wrote:Good list, Sloane, but you're going to have to explain the Princeton Band.
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Re: stage deportment
Sloan! Great list! And Bloke, that's hilarious. I, too, have gone through a similar scenario.
HOWEVER...
I attended a "Top 5" orchestra a few years back and the Principal Trombone was on stage a FULL 20 MINUTES before the concert started, whizzing up and down all sorts of scales and arpeggios...at a full volume. And. It. Was. GLORIOUS! I turned to my buddy and, wiping the saliva from our mouths, we joked that WHO CARED about the concert anymore!
To add to it all, about 5 minutes before that same show started, the Tubist walked out and blew through a Rochut etude at a nearly unnoticeable volume due to the rest of the orchestra warming-up.
And then they played Mahler 6.
It was a great night.
HOWEVER...
I attended a "Top 5" orchestra a few years back and the Principal Trombone was on stage a FULL 20 MINUTES before the concert started, whizzing up and down all sorts of scales and arpeggios...at a full volume. And. It. Was. GLORIOUS! I turned to my buddy and, wiping the saliva from our mouths, we joked that WHO CARED about the concert anymore!
To add to it all, about 5 minutes before that same show started, the Tubist walked out and blew through a Rochut etude at a nearly unnoticeable volume due to the rest of the orchestra warming-up.
And then they played Mahler 6.
It was a great night.
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Re: stage deportment
The tuba player's role is to be heard and not seen.
Rick "Cue the tuba picture from Les Brass" Denney
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Re: stage deportment
According to one old teacher I had, the tuba "is to be felt, not necessarily heard."
Wisdom or Bull-plop. I'm still not sure.
Wisdom or Bull-plop. I'm still not sure.
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Re: stage deportment
What's wrong with 4+" heels? 
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Re: stage deportment
if you can't hear the jug in a jug band, you should likely get your money back.
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Re: stage deportment
Good list Slone! But you left out my biggest pet peeve:
FOOT TAPPING

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Re: stage deportment
One that I've seen more and more...
Percussionists dropping stuff.
I recognize that there's a lot going on back there... but come on...
Percussionists dropping stuff.
I recognize that there's a lot going on back there... but come on...
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Re: stage deportment
I sense an opportunity here for the über-modern composer: Concerto for Clumsy Percussion.bort wrote:One that I've seen more and more...
Percussionists dropping stuff.
I recognize that there's a lot going on back there... but come on...
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Re: stage deportment
And trumpet players kicking their mutes.bort wrote:Percussionists dropping stuff.
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Re: stage deportment
My biggest peeve? Elitist bitching on the internet about trivial (for the most part) stuff. 
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Re: stage deportment
bloke wrote:not to mention "above the fray" elitist bitching about elitist bitching.
Oh Joe - what would TubeNet do without you keeping us all grounded!
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Re: stage deportment
Which makes your comment...?
Then again obvious comebacks are always a sign of the highest intelligence!
You've all seen my horns, do you really think anything else in my life categorizes as elitist?
You've all seen my horns, do you really think anything else in my life categorizes as elitist?