What can you tell me about this York?

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What can you tell me about this York?

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Hey y'all!

So, I have this York. She's been around.

23" bell (if i'm measuring correctly... just straight across the middle, right?)
heavy as all get out
serial number dates it from 1921/1922
I'm told it's 6/4

I think it's too big for me. its not the weight, but no amount of bit or neck adjustment allow for me to be in a position where i'm not craning up for the mouthpiece.

The bell has slots in the bottom bit for the screws from the receiver. When these are all aligned, the bell points off really far to the left or right - and not where I'm told it should be pointing (to where i'm looking, basically). Apart from bugging a few of the more OCD dudes I'm playing with, it puts it massively off balance and I end up in some ridiculous positions.

The horn has a great, deep sound. I'm woodshedding, but other way more awesome players have played it and enjoyed it for the sound, and it's mechanical soundness. Basically, it just looks like hell.

This is my first sousaphone, and my questions are these:

- Has anyone got experience with a horn like this?
I'm solidly built and 5'7.5", so I doubt it's my stature making it awkward. or is it? any ideas on how to make it more balanced and/or fit me? I've tried making my neck longer, but it's not working yet.

- If I were to find a decently priced, ohidunno... Conn 20K, what do you think the biggest differences between the 2 horns would be?
I've played a friend's 20k and, while he says they're both the exact same size, they aren't. Or, if they are, his lead pipe is just different because it connects to my face without complicated yoga moves. Would you consider moving from the York to a Conn to be a wise move?

- How much is a horn like this worth?
To get another horn, I would have to let dear, Big Sousan, go. I understand that something is worth as much as you can get for it, but really: you all are tuba nerds and are smart about these things. How much is realistic?

- If you were me, what would you do?
Lump it out with the York (maybe get the bell and lead pipe altered to fit better?), or jump ship and find a reasonably priced used Conn 20K?

And, because I feel guilty even contemplating replacing the old girl while she's in the room, here are some photos so that you can see how pretty she is.
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thanks so much in advance of your help!
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KiltieTuba wrote: Where'd you find this? Do you know if there are any repairs or modifications?
What's the bore?
i have no idea what the bore is. it was played for years, so i'm told, by an expat in a Dixie/Trad band. I forget the name, off the top of my head.

thanks for the input, guys.
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@the elephant - does your York have a similar sort of bell? KiltieTuba has made me all paranoid, now.
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the serial number is appropriate. what a palaver. either way, it's a great sounding horn. it was played recently by two separate sousa players here in new orleans whose only negative comments were on the weight, but the deep tone... well, it's kind of rad.
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oh, and thanks so much for your responses. :) i appreciate it!
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dxnmrl wrote:Hey y'all!

So, I have this York. She's been around.

23" bell (if i'm measuring correctly... just straight across the middle, right?)
heavy as all get out
serial number dates it from 1921/1922
I'm told it's 6/4
I would definitely not call that a 6/4 size sousaphone; I would not even call the Conn 20K a 6/4.......it's a 5/4. The Conn Jumbo is a true 6/4 sousaphone.
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thanks so much for the wealth of knowledge!
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yeah, interesting. this bell has 4 slots drilled out on the bell, for the screws, instead of that ridge. it's a pita to adjust it any other way.
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the elephant wrote:From that era, a raincatcher that has been made to look more modern is a good bet.
Begging to be restored!
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sloan wrote:
the elephant wrote:From that era, a raincatcher that has been made to look more modern is a good bet.
Begging to be restored!
right? she plays really nice. great, deep sound. valves are in pretty sweet condition, all slides moveable... sometimes i need help, i won't lie. but they *do* move. :)

ok. so... any of you wonderful tuba nerds want to restore this beauty? make me an offer!
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omg. now that i've typed that, it's looking at me. this must be what it feels like to drop your puppy off on the corner of a strange town.

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dxnmrl wrote:
sloan wrote:
the elephant wrote:From that era, a raincatcher that has been made to look more modern is a good bet.
Begging to be restored!
make me an offer!
hahhahah hoo lawdy. thread killa'.
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iiiiinteresting.

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