We are visiting the factory in three weeks, so hopefully I will get a chance (through my wife) to discuss with the production manager as we can't be sure the message has been properly passed on by sales staff.Lingon wrote:One point that you should make much use of is your opportunity to talk directly to Jinbao with the help of your wife, it is absolutely invaluable to be able to talk with them as native speaking in their own language. I can see exactly the details she pointed out, and why she criticized them. I have noticed just that type of imperfections on my Chinese instruments, playwise they are great though. Those are the details that my (Japanese) wife always check up and if anything is not perfect then she craves a new item. Here is a great chance for you to help them enhance the awareness and necessity of a good quality control.
Will you be testing and reviewing some instruments as well while you're there? I'm planning to order either the 1291 clone or the compensating BBb this summer, and would like to read some more opinions before I make up my mind.Neptune wrote: We are visiting the factory in three weeks, so hopefully I will get a chance (through my wife) to discuss with the production manager as we can't be sure the message has been properly passed on by sales staff.
With a little bit more care to the final finishing JinBao will have an instrument which will stand good comparison with the best European alternatives.
I understand they do not keep display stock at the factory, so I will only get to try models just manufactured at the time of my visit - so no telling what that might be.corbasse wrote:Will you be testing and reviewing some instruments as well while you're there? I'm planning to order either the 1291 clone or the compensating BBb this summer, and would like to read some more opinions before I make up my mind.
), and are a wonderfull alternative to a used Tuba needing 1000's in repair! Tuba Exchange is allready selling some non-JinBao axes, and Neptune found several sources to explore during his Frankfurt trip, and I can't wait to hear from Jonathan when he gets back from his next China trip! Ultimately, though, these horns need to pass muster with the players, wich is why TubeNet is such an important forum, and invaluable resource! )
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Imagine all the tubasgoodgigs wrote:So a while back, you were talking to Mickey W. and he mentioned some new models.
Would any of them look like this ?
Can you to comment yet ?
I am meeting up with Micky in Beijing at the end of this month, so will see what he saysgoodgigs wrote:So a while back, you were talking to Mickey W. and he mentioned some new models.
Would any of them look like this ?
Can you to comment yet ?
Ray, Out of interest, what did you get done to improve?yadent wrote:The imperfections I noted were taken care of for less than $200 and once done made the instrument an even better horn.
Like I said, Neptune's visit should carify a few points of contention vis~a~vis QC at these Asian axes! 
Please let us know what comes out of the conversation, Jonathan. BTW - checked out your video. The EEb seems like a very nice tuba. The Chinese manufacturers have come a long way!goodgigs wrote:So a while back, you were talking to Mickey W. and he mentioned some new models.
Would any of them look like this ?
Can you to comment yet ?
I have not got the F in stock as yet (expected July), but intend to do so once received - as with the other models (Lang travel tuba, JinBao 410 CC, 800 BBb, etc.)cktuba wrote:Very nice... any chance of getting a similar demonstration on the F?
Thanks - it was done just using my Lumix FZ28 camera with built in microphone. I expect it did not pick up the full harmonics (???), but I think gives a fair representation of how the tuba sounds. Interesting it has not picked up any valve noise which did initially concern me. After playing the tuba in a couple of rehearsals, the valves seem to have now bedded-in and quietened somewhat.UTSAtuba wrote:Great recording for those interested in these horns.