Klaus:
I just wanted to report that I have downloaded the tone files (in MP3) format and burned a disc in a few minutes using Windows Media Player. I then put it in the rather cheap "secondary" stereo system I have immediately available and the results are fantastic!! The speakers aren't great (we are renovating our house and have the good system packed up somewhere), but the tones are clear and can be made loud without any problem. The tuner shows them to be (of course) perfectly on pitch.
I think I'll get some decent headphone(s) somewhere since the earbuds I have don't work so well on those tones and my digital pair for use on the computer won't connect to the stereo or MP3 player.
This is great!
-- Gary
Tuning low notes
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ghmerrill
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Re: Tuning low notes
Gary Merrill
Wessex EEb tuba (Wick 3XL)
Amati oval euph (DE LN106J6Es)
Mack Brass euph (DE LN106J9)
Buescher 1924 Eb, std rcvr, Kelly 25
Schiller bass trombone (DE LB/J/J9/Lexan 110, Brass Ark MV50R)
Olds '47 Standard trombone (mod. Kelly 12c)
Wessex EEb tuba (Wick 3XL)
Amati oval euph (DE LN106J6Es)
Mack Brass euph (DE LN106J9)
Buescher 1924 Eb, std rcvr, Kelly 25
Schiller bass trombone (DE LB/J/J9/Lexan 110, Brass Ark MV50R)
Olds '47 Standard trombone (mod. Kelly 12c)
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imperialbari
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Re: Tuning low notes
Glad the sounds worked for you.
I have been aware about the existence of commercial drone CD’s from discussions on the various music discussions lists that I subscribe to, but I never owned one.
Your OP made me think I could easily make such drone schemes also, so I started thinking and trying.
As bad pitch is heard as beats (a rhythmic function telling the magnitude of the pitch discrepancy), I would forfeit much of the purpose, if not all of it, if I added some sort of clicks to the drones. However my own testing soon revealed that I always think in rhythm even through long notes, and that I needed a rhythm reference. My present compromise is about letting each of the 16-beats long notes precede by 4 snare beats.
I have several CD/DVD players, but I don’t use them very much, as I prefer computers as my medium. So I NEVER have burned a CD. And as the MP3 files became 2000 or 4000 times larger than the midi files, I took the MP3 files away from my download project (they didn’t have the snare beats anyway). Later tonight I will see if I can make MP3 versions of the several, 20 or so, midi files holding various octaves and permutations of octaves. These MP3’s will have to be stored in another section of my project where there is more space left. If you use your computer as playback medium the midi files are only 1K or 2K. I play them off the web myself via my laptop. The address is up this thread.
Klaus
I have been aware about the existence of commercial drone CD’s from discussions on the various music discussions lists that I subscribe to, but I never owned one.
Your OP made me think I could easily make such drone schemes also, so I started thinking and trying.
As bad pitch is heard as beats (a rhythmic function telling the magnitude of the pitch discrepancy), I would forfeit much of the purpose, if not all of it, if I added some sort of clicks to the drones. However my own testing soon revealed that I always think in rhythm even through long notes, and that I needed a rhythm reference. My present compromise is about letting each of the 16-beats long notes precede by 4 snare beats.
I have several CD/DVD players, but I don’t use them very much, as I prefer computers as my medium. So I NEVER have burned a CD. And as the MP3 files became 2000 or 4000 times larger than the midi files, I took the MP3 files away from my download project (they didn’t have the snare beats anyway). Later tonight I will see if I can make MP3 versions of the several, 20 or so, midi files holding various octaves and permutations of octaves. These MP3’s will have to be stored in another section of my project where there is more space left. If you use your computer as playback medium the midi files are only 1K or 2K. I play them off the web myself via my laptop. The address is up this thread.
Klaus
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Re: Tuning low notes
I'm not sure what I'm missing here, but I'm confused by your concern about the size of the MP3 files. The files I downloaded are all under 4K in size, and so the collection of the four of them easily fits on a standard CD. If more room is necessary a DVD can get you up to a bit over 4 GB storage, and a double layer DVD to a bit under 8 GB. I'm not entirely sure what can play such things, but surely that should do the trick in terms of optical storage?imperialbari wrote:I have several CD/DVD players, but I don’t use them very much, as I prefer computers as my medium. So I NEVER have burned a CD. And as the MP3 files became 2000 or 4000 times larger than the midi files, I took the MP3 files away from my download project (they didn’t have the snare beats anyway). Later tonight I will see if I can make MP3 versions of the several, 20 or so, midi files holding various octaves and permutations of octaves.
Klaus
Gary Merrill
Wessex EEb tuba (Wick 3XL)
Amati oval euph (DE LN106J6Es)
Mack Brass euph (DE LN106J9)
Buescher 1924 Eb, std rcvr, Kelly 25
Schiller bass trombone (DE LB/J/J9/Lexan 110, Brass Ark MV50R)
Olds '47 Standard trombone (mod. Kelly 12c)
Wessex EEb tuba (Wick 3XL)
Amati oval euph (DE LN106J6Es)
Mack Brass euph (DE LN106J9)
Buescher 1924 Eb, std rcvr, Kelly 25
Schiller bass trombone (DE LB/J/J9/Lexan 110, Brass Ark MV50R)
Olds '47 Standard trombone (mod. Kelly 12c)
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imperialbari
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Re: Tuning low notes
My project is within the framework of Yahoo groups, as these are free and have facilities I could not set up on my own. I cannot afford buying professional server space with pro assistance. Each group holds 100MB. This project takes up 78MB, while there only were about 35MB free in the main groups where the index is. Hence the move to my least filled group. The size of each MP3 file is 3754Kb, which surprised me, as I usually work with much smaller files. I never have uploaded 78MB in one day before.
OK, now the project has found its place. All relevant octaves for tubists reading bass clef concert are covered with reference music sheets. Eb, Bb, and BBb instruments should have material enough to get the idea. The problem for the transposing instruments is that they do not necessarily divide their ranges in octaves going from a C concert to a B concert. Yet providing specific sound files covering all transposition needs would take up far too much space.
Klaus
OK, now the project has found its place. All relevant octaves for tubists reading bass clef concert are covered with reference music sheets. Eb, Bb, and BBb instruments should have material enough to get the idea. The problem for the transposing instruments is that they do not necessarily divide their ranges in octaves going from a C concert to a B concert. Yet providing specific sound files covering all transposition needs would take up far too much space.
Klaus