Felts disintegrating?
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Felts disintegrating?
I have a question to ask the piston playing tuba players of tubenet. Have you ever encountered any of the felt washers that cushion the top of the valve piston from hitting the valve cap totally disintegrate? I recently had my King 1241 chem cleaned and receive new felts and water key corks. The #2 valve felt totally disintegrated, but all the others were OK. I received new felt washers to replace the one that disintegrated, but I had not encountered this problem previously. Any thoughts - inquiring minds want to know.

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Re: Felts disintegrating?
The problem with mine were they didn't really disintegrate, they just kind of just turned into mush...

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Re: Felts disintegrating?
Yep, happened to mine on an old band loaned Besson Sovereign. As silly as this might sound (I'm probably wrong) I wonder if some remaining chemicals reacted with the felt?
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Re: Felts disintegrating?
Bloke makes synthetic felts for super cheap. You'll never have to worry about this entire conversation ever again.
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I got 'Blokepads' for all my piston horns. Couldn't be happier with them.
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Re: Felts disintegrating?
I had one of the new felts, that Dan Oberloh put on my Holton 345 as part of his restoration, totally fail after less than 2 months. It just suddenly went totally flat and mushroomed out of round in a matter of days, yet all the other felts still looked nearly new. I hadn't done any major cleaning or had put no chemicals on the valves other than the same valve oil than all four pistons. I called Dan and we was taken aback when I told him what happened. He uses only the best supplies when assembling horns in his shop. It seems that every now and then you just get one bad one that slips through the inspection process. Nobody's perfect....
I contacted Bloke a got a set of his synthetic washers and there have been no problems since. Plus they have a more positive feel than the felt washers.
I contacted Bloke a got a set of his synthetic washers and there have been no problems since. Plus they have a more positive feel than the felt washers.
Dave Schaafsma

1966 Holton 345 | 1955 York-Master | 1939 York 716 | 1940 York 702 | 1968 Besson 226 | 1962 Miraphone 186 | 1967 Olds | 1923 Keefer EEb | 1895 Conn Eb | 1927 Conn 38K | 1919 Martin Helicon

1966 Holton 345 | 1955 York-Master | 1939 York 716 | 1940 York 702 | 1968 Besson 226 | 1962 Miraphone 186 | 1967 Olds | 1923 Keefer EEb | 1895 Conn Eb | 1927 Conn 38K | 1919 Martin Helicon
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Re: Felts disintegrating?
I've taken the sage advice of this august assemblage of astounding affectionados of the tuba. I have been in contact with said Bloke, and I will be ordering synthetic felt washers for my King 1241 tuba. 
Beginning again to be a tuba player.
1291 King Double B flat with detachable bell.
"The hills are alive, with the sound of (tuba) music."
1291 King Double B flat with detachable bell.
"The hills are alive, with the sound of (tuba) music."
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Re: Felts disintegrating?
goodgigs wrote:Alan Bear makes synthetic felts for super expensive. You'll never have to worry about this entire conversation ever again.ztuba wrote:Bloke makes synthetic felts for super cheap. You'll never have to worry about this entire conversation ever again.
Is this something besides the PVAK system? PVAK gots no felts!
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Re: Felts disintegrating?
Maybe the error occurred because the recommendation wasn’t truly heartfelt.fairweathertuba wrote:goodgigs wrote:Alan Bear makes synthetic felts for super expensive. You'll never have to worry about this entire conversation ever again.ztuba wrote:Bloke makes synthetic felts for super cheap. You'll never have to worry about this entire conversation ever again.
Is this something besides the PVAK system? PVAK gots no felts!
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