4-valve Piston CC Tubas?

[Tubajug]

I'm curious to know what tubas are out there with four piston valves (I really haven't missed a fifth valve). When my Miraphone 186 sells, I'd like to replace it in the future with a piston horn. I know about the Yamaha 621 and the similar Weril tuba. What else is out there? (more toward the 4/4 side of things) Thanks!

[cjk]

Meinl-Weston 2144 (4 valve version of a 2145).
Hirsbrunner HB -1P is a 4 valve version of an HB-2P.
Conn 2j
Conn 3j

Yes, I acknowledge that the Conns are small "under 4/4 sized."

Then there's always the goobers that have the 5th valves removed from their Conn 56J tubas.

[Tubajug]

Duh, I should have remembered the Conns, I thought about buying one a while ago. I'm compiling a list for down the road after we get through a little financial difficulty (which is why we're selling the 186) and can save up for another horn. Keep that list coming! Thanks!

[Gongadin]

What about the Fillmore at Dillon Music? Is that a BBb that's been cut down to CC?
http://www.dillonmusic.com/p-14499-fillmore-solo.aspx

[TheHatTuba]

What about the Fillmore at Dillon Music? Is that a BBb that's been cut down to CC?
http://www.dillonmusic.com/p-14499-fillmore-solo.aspx

It was cut?

[Lee Stofer]

Although Kanstul is advertising their model 90 York-like 4/4 CC as a 4-piston, 5th rotor instrument, it is also available as a 4-piston instrument as a custom order from the factory. I have had two recent orders for the BBb front-valve instrument as a 4-valve instead of 5-valve, and they are very nicel indeed. The best part is, they cost less than the 5-valve model and are lighter in weight.

[bentuba7]

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couldn't ask for a better 4 piston CC, IMHO

[rodgeman]

Also Miraphone makes a 1291 piston tuba.