Does the Conn "J" mean something?

The bulk of the musical talk
Post Reply
User avatar
Tubajug
5 valves
5 valves
Posts: 1712
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:23 pm
Location: Lincoln, NE

Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Tubajug »

Is the J their concert tuba line and K their sousaphones? And do the letters have any particular significance? Just curious...
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
User avatar
ken k
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 2372
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:02 pm
Location: out standing in my field....

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by ken k »

D is for french horn (8D), H is for trombone (88H) , I is for euph (14I), J is tuba (5J), K is sousa (20K)
they were simply instrument modle desigantions
k
B&H imperial E flat tuba
Mirafone 187 BBb
1919 Pan American BBb Helicon
1924 Buescher BBb tuba (Dr. Suessaphone)
2009 Mazda Miata
1996 Honda Pacific Coast PC800
User avatar
Tubajug
5 valves
5 valves
Posts: 1712
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:23 pm
Location: Lincoln, NE

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Tubajug »

I thought that might be all. Thanks for replying.
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
User avatar
Dan Schultz
TubaTinker
TubaTinker
Posts: 10427
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:46 pm
Location: Newburgh, Indiana
Contact:

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Dan Schultz »

Tubajug wrote:I thought that might be all. Thanks for replying.
Well... according to the Conn Loyalist Website... there are more letter designations:

A = cornet
B = trumpet
C = alto and tenor horns
D = horn in F
E = mellophone
F = not used
G = valve trombone
H = slide trombone
I = euphonium
J = tuba
K = sousaphone
L = bugle
M = saxophone
N = clarinet
O = flute
P = piccolo
Q = oboe
R = Bassoon
S = drums
T = violin
Dan Schultz
"The Village Tinker"
http://www.thevillagetinker.com" target="_blank
Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
User avatar
Tubajug
5 valves
5 valves
Posts: 1712
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:23 pm
Location: Lincoln, NE

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Tubajug »

Boy, I never knew they made so many kinds of instruments! Especially not violins! That's really neat!
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
Bob Kolada
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 2632
Joined: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:57 pm
Location: Chicago

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Bob Kolada »

Tubajug wrote:Boy, violins! really neat!
:shock:



:D
User avatar
Dan Schultz
TubaTinker
TubaTinker
Posts: 10427
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:46 pm
Location: Newburgh, Indiana
Contact:

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Dan Schultz »

Bob Kolada wrote:
Tubajug wrote:Boy, violins! really neat!
:shock:



:D
Think that's somethin'? Conn even made an ALUMINUM upright string bass!
Dan Schultz
"The Village Tinker"
http://www.thevillagetinker.com" target="_blank
Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
User avatar
The Big Ben
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 3169
Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:54 am
Location: Port Townsend, WA

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by The Big Ben »

TubaTinker wrote:
Bob Kolada wrote:
Tubajug wrote:Boy, violins! really neat!
:shock:



:D
Think that's somethin'? Conn even made an ALUMINUM upright string bass!
And these!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Conn-O-Sax-Hist ... 500wt_1413" target="_blank
User avatar
Tubajug
5 valves
5 valves
Posts: 1712
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:23 pm
Location: Lincoln, NE

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Tubajug »

TubaTinker wrote:
Bob Kolada wrote:
Tubajug wrote:Boy, violins! really neat!
:shock:



:D
Think that's somethin'? Conn even made an ALUMINUM upright string bass!
How soon was that idea "scrapped?" :lol:
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
User avatar
Tubajug
5 valves
5 valves
Posts: 1712
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:23 pm
Location: Lincoln, NE

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Tubajug »

Bob Kolada wrote:
Tubajug wrote:Boy, violins! really neat!
Are you by chance a journalist? That's some mighty-fine word-twistin'! hehe :D
Last edited by Tubajug on Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon

If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
User avatar
Timswisstuba
pro musician
pro musician
Posts: 365
Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:12 am
Location: Switzerland

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Timswisstuba »

bloke wrote:

For further explanation, send a pm to "northern".

Is this how Ebonics got started?.
User avatar
Dan Schultz
TubaTinker
TubaTinker
Posts: 10427
Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:46 pm
Location: Newburgh, Indiana
Contact:

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Dan Schultz »

Found a few more things in Conn's 1927 price list:

SR = bells & xylophones
SX = percussion accessories (wood blocks, etc.)
SY = percussion cases
V = sarrusophones
Y = drum major batons

Funny... one would have thought that violins, violas, cellos, and basses would have their own letter code but they are all listed as 'T'.
Dan Schultz
"The Village Tinker"
http://www.thevillagetinker.com" target="_blank
Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
User avatar
imperialbari
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 7461
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:47 am

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by imperialbari »

The conclusion of the above postings must be:

Jes!


Klaus
User avatar
Kevin Hendrick
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 3156
Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:51 pm
Location: Location: Location

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Kevin Hendrick »

TubaTinker wrote:
Tubajug wrote:I thought that might be all. Thanks for replying.
Well... according to the Conn Loyalist Website... there are more letter designations:

A = cornet
B = trumpet
C = alto and tenor horns
D = horn in F
E = mellophone
F = not used
G = valve trombone
H = slide trombone
I = euphonium
J = tuba
K = sousaphone
L = bugle
M = saxophone
N = clarinet
O = flute
P = piccolo
Q = oboe
R = Bassoon
S = drums
T = violin
Handy list -- thank you! Now we can refer to "M & T" instead of "sax and violins" ... :oops:
"Don't take life so serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent." -- Pogo (via Walt Kelly)
User avatar
imperialbari
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 7461
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:47 am

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by imperialbari »

And MIT from now always will be understood as an ensemble of saxophones, euphoniums, and strings.

Klaus
User avatar
iiipopes
Utility Infielder
Utility Infielder
Posts: 8580
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:10 am

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by iiipopes »

And when they were owned by Macmillian, they even subcontracted guitars. I have one. It's been my beater for almost 34 years: good quarter-sawn spruce top, reasonable mahogany ply body & back, exceptional action and intonation. I've worn it out and had to have it rebuilt: the bridge reset and the first five frets redone. Back when companies still were concerned about trademark infringement, the top bout is Martin 14-fret 000 shaped, while the lower bout is Gibson SJ200 in shape and size. It amplifies/records very well with a Fishman under the Tusq saddle. And finally, the neck is attached as is a Taylor, with the two bolts, a generation before Taylor started making guitars. I have people ask if it cost 4-digits +, when in fact my Mom paid @$350 for it for me when I was in high school.

It was probably made in the same factory that Ibanez guitars are made in now.
Jupiter JTU1110
"Real" Conn 36K
User avatar
imperialbari
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 7461
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:47 am

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by imperialbari »

1934ConnBassesBrochure_Page_10.jpg
User avatar
Kevin Hendrick
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 3156
Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:51 pm
Location: Location: Location

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by Kevin Hendrick »

imperialbari wrote:And MIT from now always will be understood as an ensemble of saxophones, euphoniums, and strings.

Klaus
... with the AI LAB adding cornets, trumpets & bugles? :wink:
"Don't take life so serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent." -- Pogo (via Walt Kelly)
User avatar
ken k
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 2372
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:02 pm
Location: out standing in my field....

Re: Does the Conn "J" mean something?

Post by ken k »

i think the J stands for Joy!!!
B&H imperial E flat tuba
Mirafone 187 BBb
1919 Pan American BBb Helicon
1924 Buescher BBb tuba (Dr. Suessaphone)
2009 Mazda Miata
1996 Honda Pacific Coast PC800
Post Reply