Until you get to the staircase.sloan wrote:If putting TWO wheels on your case cuts the weight in half, does putting FOUR wheels on the case reduce
the weight to zero?
Why yes...it does!
Ace wrote:I don't know why, but somehow this thread gives me images of big, hairy Bulgarian weightlifters at the Olympics. Just kidding, all you Tubenetters of Bulgarian heritage. I wonder if there are tuba players in Bulgaria.
Of course! But my understanding is that most Bulgarian tuba players are women, while the men play accordion, since the better accordions are of course quite heavy.Ace wrote:I wonder if there are tuba players in Bulgaria.
"I lift things up....and put them down....."Tubainsauga wrote:
I'm not sure about that, Donn. Here we can see Yordanka Apostolova easily dealing with the equivalent of five of Bloke's tuba/case combos.Donn wrote:Of course! But my understanding is that most Bulgarian tuba players are women, while the men play accordion, since the better accordions are of course quite heavy.Ace wrote:I wonder if there are tuba players in Bulgaria.
The Accord is a good answer to this thread... it is both my gig bag and my hard case - my single every day case for every use. My 186 weighs about 18lbs, and the case is about the same by itself (with a lot of padding plus the backpack apparatus)Tim Jackson wrote:I was just thinking about this subject the other day and found this:
http://www.accordcase.com/" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank , very cool ideas for cases. The 186 tuba case was built for TubaJoe.
I always hated carting my HB21 in the case... heavy tuba & heavy case... a real pain. I can say that when I was ready to sell the horn 8 years later it was in mint condition. I wonder what the costs are on the Accord cases??$$
Good idea, Joe.bloke wrote:I'm very excited at the prospect of restoring this 1960's-vintage 6/4 size case (which offers a glove-like fit for this instrument).
I will add wheels, a piano hinge, h.d. latches, and h.d. hinged handles. It will be coated with a "RhinoShield" type of substance
after I've addressed any currently-existing minor flaws in the case halves themselves. With 3" - 4" wheels, weight will seldom be an issue (less of an issue than when schlepped around in a Chronkhite bag). . . .
I see the ultralight version, which would satisfy most people's non-flight requirements, is a little over 13 pounds if I read that right the one time I could get that page to load. It also appears that they turn the tuba so that it sits in the case at an angle with the bell stack on the hinge side rather than on the handle side. That makes for a compact case. TubaRay used to have a German-made formed plywood case arranged that way, and it was compact enough to be a daily user though daily use eventually killed it.tubajoe wrote:FYI, mine is the thickest of the bunch - the *flight* version, with the added backpack system.
I know there is a lot of curiosity regarding this case -- when I get a few minutes I'll write about the pluses and minuses of the case so far. To me, it's been a game changer.
Where can you find these? A quick google didn't turn up anything but 3m tread tape.Dean E wrote: I recommend thinking about Kevlar skid strips for curbs and stairs. I have the Kevlar materials for my MTS and Walt Johnson cases (for the Willson 3050 CC).
For some people, the head and the knees are just too close together to fit a tuba in between.bloke wrote:' might be good...
...also might be one of those things that hits people in the head and knees...(??)
I love Altieri bags for exactly the same reason. I typically play tall tubas, but am not that tall myself. With other bags, the bottom of the tuba will often whack me in the back of the legs as I walk - this seemed to be worse with the "RB" style. The Altieri sits high enough on my shorter frame that I can go anywhere without discomfort. And yes, I do have to "dismount" the bag before I can lean over into the back of my car.Rick Denney wrote:
For some people, the head and the knees are just too close together to fit a tuba in between.
But I've been getting annoyed with my Altieri bag (again) because the tuba (the B&S F) sits too high. It doesn't clear the hatch on my car, and the whole point is that I can put one tuba in the car and then dismount the other tuba from my back, so that I don't have place either of them on the muddy, snowy, or greasy ground. It also find more things to run into, even the tops of door frames. If I loosen the straps enough to lower them, they catch my feet when I'm carrying it by it's (too)wobbly handle. I've nearly fallen a couple of times.
I've disliked Altieri bags in the past, and I keep having to remind myself why. They are well enough made but just don't have the best design for my purposes.
Here is the very same project that I have going. This is the original case that came with my Holton 345. It was fairly beat up when I got it, but still usable. I stripped it down, reglued all the joints, then fiberglass reinforced all the joints, filled all the holes left over from the various hardware pieces with glue and toothpicks, and filled and fiberglassed all the cracks. I decided the thumb ring and valves needed just a little extra roon, so I used an ovel paper plate as a template, cut the hole and then fiberglass in the paper plate to fill the hole. I made a bracket to mount wheels on the case and they work great. I got the wheels and all the new hardware from Ohio Travel Bag using the catalog on their website. I have a little clean up to do yet and then its off the upholstery shop where they will apply the leather hide I found at a very good price on eBay. All the foam is cut and ready to be glued in covered with black cotton velvet lining.bloke wrote:I'm very excited at the prospect of restoring this 1960's-vintage 6/4 size case (which offers a glove-like fit for this instrument).
I will add wheels, a piano hinge, h.d. latches, and h.d. hinged handles. It will be coated with a "RhinoShield" type of substance
after I've addressed any currently-existing minor flaws in the case halves themselves. With 3" - 4" wheels, weight will seldom be an issue (less of an
issue than when schlepped around in a Chronkhite bag).
This case will easily fit in the back seat of my Toyota Corolla, leaving room for a front-seat passenger and storage of a passenger's
instrument (along with our suit bags, etc.) in the trunk.
Happy hunting!Chadtuba wrote:Where can you find these? A quick google didn't turn up anything but 3m tread tape.Dean E wrote: I recommend thinking about Kevlar skid strips for curbs and stairs. I have the Kevlar materials for my MTS and Walt Johnson cases (for the Willson 3050 CC).
Does anyone sell these cases direct?oldbandnerd wrote:I know this is really about carrying tubas and keeping them protected while transporting them but I want to add my thoughts here as well about my euphonium case.
I wouldn't never allow myself to carry my horn in a soft gig bag. I don't trust me . I know I will damage it no matter how much I try to be careful. That being said I wanted the convenince of backpack straps and and lighter case as well and looked for 2 years before I bought what I am using now.
I bought it on Ebay and it has no brand name on it. Its mostly a very sturdy styrofoam shell that is molded on the inside to perfectly fit my horn. It is covered on the inside with the soft,fuzzy felt like stuf you usually see in cases. The outside is a nylon,cordura like material. I wouldn't go so far as to call it Cordura because I only paid $75.00 for this case. Whatever it is it's durable enough. It is strong enough to take what ever dumb thing I do to abuse it and is still very light.
Here it is for sale on a UK website : http://www.gear4music.com/Woodwind-Bras ... 4music/C81" target="_blank" target="_blank
Here's the same case but for a tuba : http://www.musical-bags.com/en//70/598/ ... e_in_c_86a" target="_blank" target="_blank
