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tubahed wrote:
Lingon wrote:Have you seen the Minick contra bass trombonbone in BBb? One of those, only two made, very special instruments is now for sale at Noah Gladstone's Brass Ark. ( it is a bit slow loading but well worth the wait...)
Damn...wish you hadn't provided me with that link! I was so blissful in my ignorance, not knowing that beautiful instrument existed.
I'm going to go check my lottery tickets right now!
Me too!
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The only instrument I covet more than that Minick contrabass trombone is this one (which I don't think was made by Minick):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFabADpz9cg

The first minute and a half of the video is basically in the dark...it's worth sticking around until the lights come on.
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I believe the base instrument there is a Thein.
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Bob Kolada wrote:I believe the base instrument there is a Thein.

I think you mean bass... :lol: :lol: :lol:




Sorry, couldn't resist the easy pun...
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Bob Kolada wrote:I believe the base instrument there is a Thein.
Looks like the JinBao contra with an added bell and modified valves?! :twisted:
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tubahed wrote: Damn...wish you hadn't provided me with that link! I was so blissful in my ignorance, not knowing that beautiful instrument existed.
I'm going to go check my lottery tickets right now!
rodgeman wrote: Me too!
I'm going to check up the possibilities to sell my house. There is one nice bridge nearby under which one can live... :)
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PtubaBone!
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KiltieTuba wrote:OLD TOPIC.... but more questions on trombones:::

Does anyone make bass trombone-size or tenor tuba leadpipes? I need a pretty long leadpipe for an instrument...

If not, what kind of issues might I run into if I just use a regular straight bore tube with a receiver on the end?

Also, anyone care to recommend a very deep funnel bass trombone mouthpiece?
Look into the Allied pitch-filled euph leadpipe...

As for mouthpeices, check Doug Elliot... there's an Eb tuba-like cup which can be fit to a bass bone rim and shank. Tom Klaber has one.
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Holy hell. :shock:
I prefer large and shallow over smaller and deep. JK contrabone mps are a lot of fun and useful for a large number of tasks. Their bass trombone mps come in both quite large and quite shallow sizes. I want to try the 29.5mm ones.
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tubahed wrote:The only instrument I covet more than that Minick contrabass trombone is this one (which I don't think was made by Minick):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFabADpz9cg

The first minute and a half of the video is basically in the dark...it's worth sticking around until the lights come on.
Interesting horn, but this may be bit more enjoyable ;-)

I saw a live performance of this work many years ago...
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Kiltie,

Using a baritone leadpipe will be way to short in length. What you need is Allied A174, a long and slowly tapering tuba leadpipe. It comes filled with pitch so you can easily bend it how you want.

Since you'll be adding 4 straight valves to a somewhat big curved cone, you'll have to use a second larger leadpipe after the valve section to keep the curve of the horn.

Also you may have to address the 4th valve paddel position, since you'll be playing it with your left hand pinkie!

Good Luck
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The A174 is a cross-listed part with a French Horn second branch, so you may be able to use one of those, or at least look at one to see if that's the taper you want.

(that second video was taken at my alma mater, Oberlin - cool!)

I see where you're projects going; I would strongly suggest Nick Byrne's ophicleide mouthpiece. It's pricey, but it's the deepest funnel in that rim range you'll find. There is no "Dr. Young" equivalent, because it doesn't work well on cylindrical instruments... even the french and Holton abandoned those a century ago. The Byrne isn't bass shank, but you can get an adaptor or adapt the design.

P.S. on my Bass Horn, I use a Holton Pryor model - very funnel shaped which only works on the tiniest bore trombones. 'Course, my bass horn is more in the horn size-range, but that's another debate ;-)

PM me if you want me to take a shot at a horn mouthpiece for you in wood or corian. A little outside the serpent line, but we could probably make something appropriate.
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Getting back to trombones....

on the same Brass Ark site is a Contrabass Trombone in F made by Heribert Glassl and further down is a Conn contrabone in G from 1905 ( old school small bore).

Happy hunting.

-Pat
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