Holton BBb 4V

[dantetuba]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HOLTON-BBb-TU ... 500wt_1204" target="_blank

Nice horn location: CA, USA

[TheHatTuba]

The body looks like a Conn...

[EdFirth]

It caught my attention too. Holtons have wide round ferruls on the big branches. As to it being a Conn, there's no curly cue in the third slide tube at the top. But I don't know what it is either. Ed

[dantetuba]

It's a King body with a Holton sousaphone bell

I don't know if it is a King body!
Look at the slide of third valves have some differences.

[Dan Schultz]

It's a King body with a Holton sousaphone bell

I don't know exactly what it is but the bracing, leadpipe, and valvecaps don't say 'King'.

In fact... the valve caps have a very similar shape to those I've seen on Holton euphoniums.

[Michael Bush]

If that's a Conn serial number, it would date the horn to 1917. If it's a Holton serial number, it would put it in the mid-1940s. I'm no expert, but it looks to me more like a 1940s horn than one from 1917.

[TheHatTuba]

So what "size" do we think this is?

Conn "Grand" or King 1241

[aqualung]

Cuppla Holton (3V) 340s in this nabe have 8¼" bell collars

[Tabor]

I think this looks like a conn orchestra grand, or similar bell-front model, with a straight in leadpipe, like mine.

The bell on the ebay special looks thinner. At first glance, I thought it looked like king 2341 (old style) territory, as well. My guess is that the original bell was trashed, and they found something that would work.

It may or may not have been upright originally, but I heard about someone putting a big Holton bell on one of these before and it playing well. If I had a bucket of cash and wanted a project, I'd buy it, and figure out if a Kanstul bell would work.

Here is the link to photos, the orchestra grand next to a big old Holton.

http://s1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc4 ... =slideshow

[iloveblues64]

Haven't received it yet.. but I won it on ebay. Ill let you guys know what it actually is when I get it