LOUD 12

[solomon]

Hi there,
is the new " LOUD 12 M" mouthpiece just a copy of the old LOUD 12 just with different appearence from the outside?
I played one of the older models (Matt Perrine´s one) and I really liked it. So I ordered a new one from LOUD. With the one I got I realize it has an "airy" sound. I didn t notice that when I was trying out Matt´s . Don´t get me wrong , I really do like how the new LOUD I bought feels playing just the " air" in the sound disturbs me a little. thanks

[KiltieTuba]

Yes, the internal dimensions are the same as the old LM-12, though I think with a non-removable rim it has a smoother inner cup (mine has a light step between the rim and cup).

I'd check the inside shank, is there some tooling marks or otherwise not entirely smooth inside the shank?

I have the new BUZZER LM-12 and an old 2pc LM-12

[solomon]

Is there something else except " long tones" to reduce the air-sound ?How do you guys do it when you use this Mourthpiece? Somebody mentioned it in another threat that you have to learn how to play with this odd mouthpiece?

[jamsav]

I will let the guys who use this model regularly chime in, but my experience with it was that it required a completely different approach to attacks . Restraint was the order as it was extremely easy to over blow-
I struggled to find " my sound " , and it wasnt a learning curve that I cared to push through .
I suspect that the reward in using this particular design was out there , but I chose not to persue... would only consider this with my sousaphone , when outdoors and loud was the order of the day !

[KiltieTuba]

I will let the guys who use this model regularly chime in, but my experience with it was that it required a completely different approach to attacks . Restraint was the order as it was extremely easy to over blow-
I struggled to find " my sound " , and it wasnt a learning curve that I cared to push through .
I suspect that the reward in using this particular design was out there , but I chose not to persue... would only consider this with my sousaphone , when outdoors and loud was the order of the day !

That's almost the only reason why I use this mouthpiece.

The trick with the LM-12, as I have found, is that your forte is going to be fortissimo, beyond that you shouldn't need to play any louder. Of course I do, but the band I use it in requires me to play louder just to be as loud as the trumpets or bones.

As for the air noise? Where is it originating from? Can you get some video or audio of it happening? It might be that you're just not accustomed to playing with the LM-12 yet and are forcing too much air or you're constricting your throat when you play louder causing this extra air to be heard.

[Bandmaster]

I tried the LM-12 once and just didn't like the quality of the sound. I have listened to guys that use it and I have come to think they just want to sound more like a bass trombone than a tuba.

[ppalan]

Hi,
I don't know if you're interested but Dave Houser, a sponsor here, (http://www.housermouthpiece.net/)and I believe the original maker of the Loud Mouthpieces is producing them under the name Mouthpiece Ordnance. The mouthpiece in question here is called the Mk-12.

[KiltieTuba]

Hi,
I don't know if you're interested but Dave Houser, a sponsor here, (http://www.housermouthpiece.net/)and I believe the original maker of the Loud Mouthpieces is producing them under the name Mouthpiece Ordnance. The mouthpiece in question here is called the Mk-12.

Those are the old design, not the oldest design, but the old design to what LOUD is making today.
http://www.loudmouthpieces.com/

[Bob Kolada]

I had a one piece LM-12 for a while; since it didn't do anything that my PT48 couldn't do I sold it. I'm tending towards thinking it's just marketing and nothing actually different. Since it was technically quite shallow it might have been a good tuba-players-mouthpiece mouthpiece for cimbasso or something. I didn't have my slide contra at the time I owned the mouthpiece.

[KiltieTuba]

I had a one piece LM-12 for a while; since it didn't do anything that my PT48 couldn't do I sold it. I'm tending towards thinking it's just marketing and nothing actually different. Since it was technically quite shallow it might have been a good tuba-players-mouthpiece mouthpiece for cimbasso or something. I didn't have my slide contra at the time I owned the mouthpiece.

What's the PT48 like?

That's interesting, of the two guys that switched over from their regular Hellebergs, both definitely noticed an increase in how loud they could get. Though, I might guess that the backbore was larger than the Helleberg.