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How much would you charge to turn down a shank on a mouthpiece? I'm just trying to get a rough estimate of what this experiment is going to cost me.

p.s. it's not for tuba :oops:
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Contact Jim @ Kanstul. My son liked an old Blessing mouthpiece with the wider taper shank for his cornet: sounded great, wouldn't seat in the receiver. Jim took it, turned it down, sleeved it, re-turned it to standard taper, and replated it for a reasonable cost, but I can't remember exactly what it did cost me some years ago.
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The cost depends upon how much time is involved. If you want a bass trombone mouthpiece shank cut down to a standard tenor size, that's pretty quick and easy on the lathe, in the $20-$25 range. If it is trying to fit a non-standard taper of an oddball instrument, that will require a bit more measuring and work, and will cost more. To cut the shank to a cylinder shape, sleeve the shank with new brass and basically make a new shank is more expensive, still. To buff and have the mouthpiece re-plated is an extra charge, too.
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bloke wrote:Be sure that the exit bore isn't larger than the small-end exterior dimension of the new (smaller) shank size.

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That was the first thing I though of. Then someone posted on another site that this mouthpiece could actually be done.

The mouthpiece in question is a Conn Remington. There are a few small shank Remingtons floating around, but they seem rare has hen's teeth. I have one, but it's in need of work. I can find plenty of the regular Remington shank versions on ebay. I'm just trying to calculate the total outlay to purchase one and have it altered. If it works, I plan to do at least two of them.
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I once converted a Schilke 51D from a bass trombone shank to a tenor shank with a pair of pliers. It actually worked. in fact, I still use it.
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If you know a competent machinist and have one mouthpiece with the correct shank, he can turn it down on any lathe. I had one done 20 years ago and it works perfectly. All it cost me was dinner at Pizza Hut.
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bloke wrote:
You're perfectly within your rights to poo-poo this, but a Remington isn't terribly different from a 6-1/2AL...

...otherwise, join the trombone forum. It takes about 24 hours to get approved. Within that realm will lie your sought-after cache of Remington small shank tbn. m'pcs.
Already there. A few members have them....and they ain't giving them up for the most part.

You're right about the 6½ AL. The difference is slight. There's just something about the Remington I like better. I have a Giardinelli Symphony T that I like as much if not more than the Remington...but it's large shank. If the euphonium was a Yamaha yep321 I would just swap out the receiver and be done with it.
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bloke wrote:Why not swap out the receiver on a YEP-201?
To be honest, it just seems like a waste on a 3 banger euphonium. At the end of the day, I know it's probably the cheapest way to go.
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