The 6/4 of your dreams
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
What mouthpieces do you long time BAT players recommend to enable the BAT to do its best work? I personally need some advice on this one.
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
BLOKE! You've nailed it! Well, except for the haircut thing.
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
Mouthpieces are very personal, as they have to fit your face, so only you can decide what is right for you. However, I am finding the MF 'H' an excellent mouthpiece for my Neptune. Puts nice round tone and good definition on the big tuba.Brown Mule wrote:What mouthpieces do you long time BAT players recommend to enable the BAT to do its best work? I personally need some advice on this one.
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
And you get 'em from the same guy who sells the "Learn to Be Arnold Jacobs in Your Sleep!" CDs on eBay.bloke wrote:Don't pay attention to any of that stuff that I've posted. Everything I've said about tubas and intonation on tubenet has just been a bunch of made-up crap posted specifically to annoy, rather to inform. As a matter-of-fact, ALL tubas play perfectly in tune right out of the box.Bob Kolada wrote:I've always thought it odd, Joe, that you comment on so many horns' poor intonation yet so many people are able to play them in tune.
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THAT explains the TubeNet® thong...bloke wrote: Wind, song, support, good posture, little slivers of plastic, green leafy vegetables, and all that jazz.

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1. Like all respected pros, Joe can play all those instruments in tune, and sound good doing it. But he has to take special action to achieve that good intonation, and he'd rather not.Bob Kolada wrote:I've always thought it odd, Joe, that you comment on so many horns' poor intonation yet so many people are able to play them in tune.
2. Unlike you (by your own admission), Joe has actually played the CSO York.
3. He has also heard Gene play it up close.
4. I watched Gene play a hymn on the CSO York in the very low register. He adjusted the fourth-valve slide over a range of six or eight inches, moving it on nearly every note, in the half octave above the fundamental. No walk in the park, indeed.
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My quoted comment is a joke.Rick Denney wrote:1. Like all respected pros, Joe can play all those instruments in tune, and sound good doing it. But he has to take special action to achieve that good intonation, and he'd rather not.Bob Kolada wrote:I've always thought it odd, Joe, that you comment on so many horns' poor intonation yet so many people are able to play them in tune.
2. Unlike you (by your own admission), Joe has actually played the CSO York.
3. He has also heard Gene play it up close.
4. I watched Gene play a hymn on the CSO York in the very low register. He adjusted the fourth-valve slide over a range of six or eight inches, moving it on nearly every note, in the half octave above the fundamental. No walk in the park, indeed.
Rick "noting that lipping notes changes their color" Denney
1. Obviously.
2. Irrelevant, since I mentioned that and then questioned how the intonation was on it and the other one.
3. I don't understand this one.
4. Whatever individuals do in that range is not indicative of a horn's overall intonation. It seems that he does not use the 5th valve on that horn very much for whatever reason (?). I am interested in (roughly) low A on up; I say A because I have played and owned tubas that have intonation problems on the 2nd partial and the 3 notes below it. Whoops...
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
Rick Denney wrote:1. Like all respected pros, Joe can play all those instruments in tune, and sound good doing it. But he has to take special action to achieve that good intonation, and he'd rather not.Bob Kolada wrote:I've always thought it odd, Joe, that you comment on so many horns' poor intonation yet so many people are able to play them in tune.
2. Unlike you (by your own admission), Joe has actually played the CSO York.
3. He has also heard Gene play it up close.
4. I watched Gene play a hymn on the CSO York in the very low register. He adjusted the fourth-valve slide over a range of six or eight inches, moving it on nearly every note, in the half octave above the fundamental. No walk in the park, indeed.
Rick "noting that lipping notes changes their color" Denney
Very well put, Rick.
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It was meant to suggest that maybe Joe knows more about what Gene does and doesn't do than your post gave him credit for.Bob Kolada wrote:3. I don't understand this one.
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
What Possibility of converting the 345 CC to BBb tuba?
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Why would you want to do that? Many people seem to want to cut the more common BBb to a CC. If you have a 345 CC and want a BBb just put up offer to swap on here and I am sure you will soon have a taker - and get an original 345 BBbTigerreydelaselva wrote:What Possibility of converting the 345 CC to BBb tuba?
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I love my Sanders Cerveny. I cannot think of a better sounding horn, but it all depends on the player. For my purposes, this is the best 6/4 horn for me
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
Or just sell it. 345 CC's, factory and cut, seem to move pretty quickly...Neptune wrote:Why would you want to do that? Many people seem to want to cut the more common BBb to a CC. If you have a 345 CC and want a BBb just put up offer to swap on here and I am sure you will soon have a taker - and get an original 345 BBbTigerreydelaselva wrote:What Possibility of converting the 345 CC to BBb tuba?
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
My bloke-ified Frankenstein 1934 Conn 36J (with the transplanted 20J "just a 1/2 inch too wide" top bow) is more than adequate for me. The only issue (for me...) is the need to use 1-3 for the F at the bottom of the staff (not always, only on selected pieces). It could be prettier - but I can't think of anything that might make it play better.
Well...maybe lessons...
Well...maybe lessons...
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It's a Gnagey CC. A couple of people around here have owned it. Seems like it was for sale not that long ago?tstryk wrote:What is this? I am drooling all over myself and having heart palpitations?
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
My 2012 Nirschl York CC...best one I have ever played and several others seem to agree.
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I'm more than satisfied with my Martin. Both bells means ultimate flexibility.
It is the jazz sound I have wanted with the front bell, and the top bell totally shocked me with the huge core gorgeous sound.
It is the jazz sound I have wanted with the front bell, and the top bell totally shocked me with the huge core gorgeous sound.
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
I wasn't aware of a Martin "short-action". Any pictures or links to share?KiltieTuba wrote:A Conn 26J/27J - played one and loved it more than my Holton. Although I've been interested in those short action Martin tubas...
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Re: The 6/4 of your dreams
6/4 CC - Hirsbrunner "Yorkbrunner"
6/4 Bb - Pre-World War II Martin with 4 forward facing valves and both bells!
6/4 Bb - Pre-World War II Martin with 4 forward facing valves and both bells!
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