I would describe the bell of these horns as being 'stovepipe'. The horn is about 42 1/2 from the end of the bell to the keel.Grooving for Heaven wrote:nice looking tuba. Is it just the pics, or is the bell a little more "stovepipe" than most that size?
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Are the valve caps factory? Every pre-PT I've seen/owned has lacked the cap engravings.
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I've owned 6 tubas in the past year and spent too much time on this forum, I didn't know CROWN was a B&S clone. How would the average player know that CROWN is a potentially better tuba than a Yamaha?
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Seller says "I have no experience in tubas and have not tried it."
I appreciate the honesty, but I bet that discourages a lot of people from bidding.
I appreciate the honesty, but I bet that discourages a lot of people from bidding.
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Relisted with a price drop. Hopefully someone will bite:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crown-Tuba-Rota ... 1c30155140" target="_blank
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crown-Tuba-Rota ... 1c30155140" target="_blank
Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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I'll take exception on the 641s....
Although they are perhaps a little more stiff "out of the box", with a little tweaking (maybe not everyone's cup of tea) 641s can absolutely rock the house... like an in-tune Alex BBb.
Mine's now known as "the weapon". The only thing I haven't "tweaked" is the sharp high G and Ab. But they're both pull-able... and my first is vented.
I find these pictured instruments a little on the "cluncky" side. Less refined assembly, noisy, easily damaged.
Too each their own, I guess.
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Although they are perhaps a little more stiff "out of the box", with a little tweaking (maybe not everyone's cup of tea) 641s can absolutely rock the house... like an in-tune Alex BBb.
Mine's now known as "the weapon". The only thing I haven't "tweaked" is the sharp high G and Ab. But they're both pull-able... and my first is vented.
I find these pictured instruments a little on the "cluncky" side. Less refined assembly, noisy, easily damaged.
Too each their own, I guess.

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I have told my son that when he enters high school I will buy him a full sized tuba. If he was a year older, I would be bidding on this.
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I should have been more specific; in his case, it would be his home / church / "concert and contest" instrument. The school provides school instruments.MartyNeilan wrote:I have told my son that when he enters high school I will buy him a full sized tuba. If he was a year older, I would be bidding on this.
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Even if you're careful they're still easy to dent. I had Baltimore Brass put a guard on mine (sorry bloke, too much travel time to get to your shopbloke wrote:![]()
Admittedly, the horizontal tuning slide B&S BBb rotary tubas' 4th valve tubing wrap is a disaster-waiting-to-happen in the hands of dope-headed schoolboys

Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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Well, it's not like it'll go bad in a year's time... go for it!MartyNeilan wrote:I have told my son that when he enters high school I will buy him a full sized tuba. If he was a year older, I would be bidding on this.

Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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+1J.c. Sherman wrote:I'll take exception on the 641s....
Although they are perhaps a little more stiff "out of the box", with a little tweaking (maybe not everyone's cup of tea) 641s can absolutely rock the house... like an in-tune Alex BBb.
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J.c.S.
I am not a big Yamaha fan, but I kinda like the 641 rotary BBb. Most people here don't seem to like them for some reason and would rather have a Miraphone 186. But I much prefer the sound and low register of the YBB 641. It's kinda like the M-W 25 BBb (another model I like many ppl don't like), but with a better low range.
IMO, the 641 does not suffer from the bland 'vanilla' sound most Yammy's have; rather, it sounds much more like a rotary M-W and some Alex's. Most ppl don't like em' prolly because they do not have the most even response & pitch.
The B&S-made 'Crown' has been re-listed. Would be a great starter/all-around BBb tuba. Someone should snap this up

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crown-Tuba-Rota ... 065787712?