baritones
- opus37
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Re: baritones
Do you specifically mean "baritone" or do you mean "euphonium"? (Both or either are not acceptable options.)
Brian
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1980's Yamaha 321 euphonium
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1892 Courtiere (J.W. Pepper Import) Helicon Eb
1980's Yamaha 321 euphonium
2007 Miraphone 383 Starlight
2010 Kanstul 66T
2016 Bubbie Mark 5
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THE TUBA
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Re: baritones
From the perspective of brass bands.... I generally find euphoniums to be fairly pleasant but baritones to be downright annoying.
Dan Schultz
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Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
"The Village Tinker"
http://www.thevillagetinker.com" target="_blank
Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
- b.williams
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Re: baritones
LOL. That's a new one for me!bloke wrote:Can we just embrace the generic (for all of the variants mentioned above) "bariturd" ?
It's the tenor sax that I HATE!!!!!!!!!
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Bob Kolada
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Re: baritones
I like bariphoniums but they're horribly misused. Euphoniums should be low range instruments, not the counter melody squealer they are written as.
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Re: baritones
From a brass band perspective . . . to me, baritones who came from euphonium sound like euphoniums with a slightly thinner tone, while baritones who came from trombone sound like slightly less offensive (darker) valve trombones.
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Jess Haney
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Re: baritones
I agree mostly because every baritone and euph are practically the same design dementions. Besson, Yamaha, Willson, you name it. Its like everyone copying a 186 and saying their's is better because becaise of "....." Oh wait tuba makers did that alreadytuben wrote:+1opus37 wrote:Do you specifically mean "baritone" or do you mean "euphonium"? (Both or either are not acceptable options.)
I would only add that my primary complaint about Euphonium players is that they all sound alike.
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Re: baritones
I kinda like bearphoniums... Just don't play one.
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What Would Xena Do?
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King Sousaphone
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What Would Xena Do?
- k001k47
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Re: baritones
bloke wrote:Whatever happened to the beartone cimbasso ?

- Rick F
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Re: baritones
+1snorlax wrote:SELLMANSBERGER:
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Re: baritones
A baritone horn is the chameleon of the brass band. It's sound can be manipulated to sound like a euphonium, trombone, tenor horn and baritone horn and serves as the link, within the ensemble's tessitura, between all the aforementioned instruments.GC wrote:From a brass band perspective . . . to me, baritones who came from euphonium sound like euphoniums with a slightly thinner tone, while baritones who came from trombone sound like slightly less offensive (darker) valve trombones.
Will Hess
Euphonium Instructor
Loyola University - New Orleans
http://euphon1.wix.com/willhess" target="_blank
Euphonium Instructor
Loyola University - New Orleans
http://euphon1.wix.com/willhess" target="_blank
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Re: baritones
Can be, certainly. But how many players actually take advantage of its flexibility? How many simply play with the sound that they're comfortable producing and let it stop there?
And can you say that this flexibility can be seen as a lack of an essential character of its own?
And can you say that this flexibility can be seen as a lack of an essential character of its own?
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Re: baritones
I used not to think much of baritone, but of recent test playing them before selling, I have come to rather like their tone.
I would say a baritone is to a euphonium - is like an F tuba is to a BBb tuba. Lacks the breath of tone, but has a nice clear tone all of its own.
I would say a baritone is to a euphonium - is like an F tuba is to a BBb tuba. Lacks the breath of tone, but has a nice clear tone all of its own.
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alfredr
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Re: baritones
tank wrote "dementions." I had never thought of it that way, but that about says it all.
alfredr (Some people march to a different drummer. And some people polka.) (Speaking of dementions)
alfredr (Some people march to a different drummer. And some people polka.) (Speaking of dementions)
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Bob Kolada
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Re: baritones
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Re: baritones
Here is a good example of how a baritone can sound
http://youtu.be/3rV2ZwyGdY8
http://youtu.be/3rV2ZwyGdY8
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jeopardymaster
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Re: baritones
Expressive, lyrical playing. Thanks for sharing!
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