Looks like another B&S Stencil

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Heavy_Metal
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Looks like another B&S Stencil

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wonder who "Hans Mueller" was?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Rotary-Valve- ... 1e7f1ed514" target="_blank" target="_blank

The ever-growing list of B&S stencil names we know of is here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=53607" target="_blank

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Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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Re: Looks like another B&S Stencil

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Hans Mueller was a house brand sold by Custom Music. Some were made by B & S. I don't think this one was made in Germany by B & S. The seller claims this is the same tuba as the Sanders 'Imperial'... which was a copy of the B & S/VMI 101 tuba.

Most of these horns I've seen are pretty good players.
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The copied Alex wrap is interesting.
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I asked the seller what country this tuba was made, here is his response:
"This tuba was made by Custom Music Company in Detroit, MI, USA."
Apparently this is American made tuba! :wink:
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sugawi wrote:I asked the seller what country this tuba was made, here is his response:
"This tuba was made by Custom Music Company in Detroit, MI, USA."
Apparently this is American made tuba! :wink:
:lol:
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Re: Looks like another B&S Stencil

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Well, maybe we'll find out if a TubeNetter buys it.

A similar horn appears in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=53412" target="_blank"
thattubaguy wrote:The copied Alex wrap is interesting.
Also resembles a Miraphone 186..... at some recent performances I was asked if my Sonora was a Miraphone. Nope, sorry........
Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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bloke wrote:Chinese.
+1. But... I wasn't going to start THAT discussion again. One of the earlier posts alluded to the horn "being like a Sanders 'Imperial'".... which were produced in Asia for Custom Music.

Custom did a pretty good job of monitoring the quality. From the ones I've seen... these weren't bad horns at all.
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Re: Looks like another B&S Stencil

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The Custom Music site says they're made by B&S..... maybe someone thought that meant Briggs & Stratton :D

http://www.customtubas.com/proddetail.p ... r_BBb_Tuba" target="_blank

As has been said earlier, if that horn was made in China, they've done a great job of duplicating all the little B&S details.
Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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Heavy_Metal wrote:The Custom Music site says they're made by B&S..... maybe someone thought that meant Briggs & Stratton :D

http://www.customtubas.com/proddetail.p ... r_BBb_Tuba" target="_blank" target="_blank

As has been said earlier, if that horn was made in China, they've done a great job of duplicating all the little B&S details.
Nowhere does it say "made by B & S". The exact words from the Custom Music website are "B&S Manufacturing & Quality".

Like I mentioned before... Custom Music seems to have taken a keen interest in keeping the quality of their 'stencils' good... regardless of where they are/were manufactured.
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Re: Looks like another B&S Stencil

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Have to admit, it does look pretty similar to my Sonora. As was said already, if it's a Chinese horn they really got some of the little details down pat.
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