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Maybe a bit more on-topic for today, I used to work in lower Manhattan, and my office building looked straight out at the WTC site.

They had already started the reconstruction when I began my job there, but it was staggering to see the work site every day, and see how HUGE of an area it is.

The new tower is a VERY impressive building. I can watch it being built from my living room window, and I live about 5 miles away. And as big as it looks in pictures, it is HUGE when you are next to it in-person. I can't wait until it opens and I can go up to the observation deck.

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Has anyone experimented with switching to LED light bulbs?

I never got in on the CFL craze, I thought the light was too harsh and they were too expensive. I tried a few, but they seemed to burn out just as quickly as the regular bulbs did.

I haven't tried LED bulbs yet, because I bought a case of 60 watt bulbs before they stopped making them. I actually bought 130 volt bulbs by mistake. Apparently they are supposed to last a little bit longer, but I can't tell a difference quite yet.

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The LED bulbs seem like they might actually be a good color of light, plus they actually "look like" light bulbs.

Call me a light-bulb purist, but the CFL bulbs just plain look wierd when you can see them.

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Ok, new page, I'm done.

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This is from a 60 Minutes transcript, an interview with the director of the 9/11 Museum at Ground Zero in NYC (emphasis added by me, if you just want to read the relevant part).

And, of course, audio is just the beginning of the sensitive questions about what should be exhibited.

Lesley Stahl: Let me ask you. What about some of the horrific shots for example of people jumping?

Alice Greenwald: This is probably, as far as I'm concerned, the most sensitive question for this museum.

Joe Daniels: We went through a lot of debate internally about, "Do we show that side of the story?"

On the morning of September 11th, Joe Daniels came out of the subway to the gruesome sight of bodies falling from the North Tower. Today, he is president of the 911 Memorial and Museum.

Joe Daniels: You never want to have to see that; someone 100 stories up, 1,000 feet in the air, having to make that kind of choice. On the same time, there's a very strong feeling that this was a part of the story, that a group of people from this group, al Qaeda, put innocent people in a position to have to do that.

Lesley Stahl: When you think about what terrorism means, this really says it.

Alice Greenwald: Absolutely. It's an impossible thing for a human being to do to another human being. And yet, it became possible on 9/11. So for us not to acknowledge that would be to not be true to the story.

But how? With video of people falling, or photographs? And what about the feelings of family members? Greenwald told us that she knows that some will never want to see an exhibit on this subject, but many argued strongly that it had to be there...

Alice Greenwald: I have to say that we were also-- I don't want to say accosted, that's a little strong. But, you know, shaken by the lapels by family members who said, "You have to tell the story. Don't whitewash the story. Tell it like it was. The world needs to know."

Joe Daniels: So we ultimately decided that we will include an exhibit,// but do it in a way, in an alcove, where people will be clearly warned, and if they don't want to see it or have their family see it, they can easily avoid it.

As I mentioned to Joe in a PM, if the standard set by the museum (that you pay to attend) is to allow for personal choice of what you want to view, please don't make me view these photos on TubeNet. I came here looking for updates and silliness, not this.

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This is from a 60 Minutes transcript, an interview with the director of the 9/11 Museum at Ground Zero in NYC (emphasis added by me, if you just want to read the relevant part).

And, of course, audio is just the beginning of the sensitive questions about what should be exhibited.

Lesley Stahl: Let me ask you. What about some of the horrific shots for example of people jumping?

Alice Greenwald: This is probably, as far as I'm concerned, the most sensitive question for this museum.

Joe Daniels: We went through a lot of debate internally about, "Do we show that side of the story?"

On the morning of September 11th, Joe Daniels came out of the subway to the gruesome sight of bodies falling from the North Tower. Today, he is president of the 911 Memorial and Museum.

Joe Daniels: You never want to have to see that; someone 100 stories up, 1,000 feet in the air, having to make that kind of choice. On the same time, there's a very strong feeling that this was a part of the story, that a group of people from this group, al Qaeda, put innocent people in a position to have to do that.

Update portion: playing at a 9/11 service in a couple hours.

Lesley Stahl: When you think about what terrorism means, this really says it.

Alice Greenwald: Absolutely. It's an impossible thing for a human being to do to another human being. And yet, it became possible on 9/11. So for us not to acknowledge that would be to not be true to the story.

But how? With video of people falling, or photographs? And what about the feelings of family members? Greenwald told us that she knows that some will never want to see an exhibit on this subject, but many argued strongly that it had to be there...

Alice Greenwald: I have to say that we were also-- I don't want to say accosted, that's a little strong. But, you know, shaken by the lapels by family members who said, "You have to tell the story. Don't whitewash the story. Tell it like it was. The world needs to know."

Joe Daniels: So we ultimately decided that we will include an exhibit,// but do it in a way, in an alcove, where people will be clearly warned, and if they don't want to see it or have their family see it, they can easily avoid it.

As I mentioned to Joe in a PM, if the standard set by the museum (that you pay to attend) is to allow for personal choice of what you want to view, please don't make me view these photos on TubeNet. I came here looking for updates and silliness, not this.

I'm sorry Bort, but to leave out the things in history which one finds distasteful and hard to view is to deny it happened. The idea that one can pick and choose the history they wish to know is absurd and leads to things like the goofballs who deny the holocaust happened. I think the 9/11 museum by in effect hiding the jumpers has done a disservice to the memories of those who had to make that awful choice to jump from the top of the World Trade Center. Whether you saw it live or on tape and no matter how many times one sees it - you immediately feel a jolt and grasp and feel the ramifications of what happened that day and the sense of freedom we all lost. To banish photos, or make it convenient to not see the horrors of history and what happened -is to deny it. And it is important that both young and old see it so that we do indeed never forget.

Update portion: playing at a 9/11 service in a couple hours

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My only point with this is that there's a time and a place for learning and displaying history like this, and I don't think it's TubeNet.

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I was not suggesting that anyone hides from this, covers it up, forgets it, etc.

The point is that this is TubeNet. It's a public forum. Yes, photos like this exist, but are NEVER displayed in the news without some sort of warning. Think back a few months to the Boston bombings. You can find a ton of horrible, graphic photos of the scene directly after the explosion. One in particular still makes me nauseous at the thought of it, just about the worst thing you could imagine. I would be just as upset if that photo was posted here, with no warning.

And for the photo Joe posted, yes, those people were real and did what they did. We should focus not on how they died, but on the memory of their lives.

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My employer is requiring me, along with all my co-workers, to sit for an employer-sponsored headshot for our website. Previously, we had been allowed to submit our own headshots. The results were roughly 50/50 some kind of formal 'portrait' and some kind of candid photo where the person happened to be dressed professionally and looked mildly cheerful/sober. The new policy ticks me off, if ultimately for a trivial reason.

I really liked my old headshot (taken 3 years ago) because I was incredibly happy at the exact moment the picture was taken and it showed in the photo. In that photo I am wearing a collared button-down shirt with a conservative pattern - just like a real grownup. I look happy and vibrant.

In my new picture, I am 3 years older, fatter, and uglier. It would be impossible for me to be as genuinely happy as I was in my old picture - I was at work, with four hours of my workday left to go, sleep-deprived, preoccupied with everything I still needed to accomplish and prepare for that day, and just removed from an email argument with my mother and future mother-in-law over wedding planning (a losing battle if there ever were one).

My job isn't drudgery (and they let me practice in my office after hours) - it is merely a source of financial gratification rather than emotional gratification. But I don't want everybody to know that! I want current and prospective customers and ESPECIALLY prospective employers to see the super-happy version of me. I'm a nice, fun guy and wish that could be reflected in my 'official' picture. Instead, I'll get a daily reminder that I used to be younger, better-looking, and happier.

Anyway, TubeNet, thanks for listening to my sob story. You've been updated.

[Donn]

The point is that this is TubeNet. It's a public forum.

And it's a thread on Tubenet comprised of about 7K "update" posts on random topics, commonly from their personal stories, little windows into our different worlds. I guess that's immaterial in the end, because Tubenet isn't here to be a platform for the dissemination of world news and politics in general, so there won't be an appropriate thread to for such things in any case ... but if there were, this wouldn't be it.

[Uncle Buck]

I repaired my broken dishwasher tonight.

You have been updated.

[Dan Schultz]

I played an ophicleide today!

[Uncle Buck]

It never cleaned worth a crap. Finally, I took it all apart, did a super-duper cleaning job (nasty!), and also noticed that the drain hose didn't have a high loop in it (as a high loop in the hose prevents nasty "backwash")...so I looped the drain hose up above the inlet under the sink.
Guess what...??
After all these years, it now cleans like a fancy-schmancy dishwasher.

I've never had to do that level of cleaning, but once a year I have to clean out all the hard water deposits. If I don't, it clogs up everything and the dishes don't get clean at all. (I probably ought to consider a water softener, but I never have. Too many horror stories about inadequate backflow prevention, vermin getting in the water if you aren't completely vigilent, etc.)

Yesterday's repair was just replacing the door latch.

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... I've never had to do that level of cleaning, but once a year I have to clean out all the hard water deposits.....

An easy way to do that is put a bowl of white vinegar upright on one of the shelves and cycle the machine.

It took me a couple of trials before I figured out to put the vinegar in a bowl. The first thing that happens is the pump runs for a bit to get rid of anything that's in the machine when the door is closed.

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Hey Dan,

how 'bout a youtube of you tooting on the ophicleide ?

We're not expecting a concerto...just a look.

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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/0 ... rt_m-rpt-1" target="_blank

As if those poor folks on the boardwalk didn't deal with enough already. I was there a few weeks ago, and was pleased with the progress, including the very nice, brand new boardwalk.

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Crap! Man that sucks! The only "kind of" good thing is that it happened after labor day, so it didn't happen during profit season. Plus it was a Thursday in September, so fewer people around. I hope no one got hurt.

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The fire is now 8 alarms, stretching 3-5 blocks. The taffy and fudge shop I visited every year as a kid, and the fun town carousel house (both of which survived the storm, including the carousel), are gone. Heartbreaking.

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My basement job is finally finished . I saved about $4,000 by doing it myself. Please allow me to waste your time by indulging myself this little pleasure. I am so pleased it is DONE!

[windshieldbug]

My basement job is finally finished . I saved about $4,000 by doing it myself. Please allow me to waste your time by indulging myself this little pleasure. I am so pleased it is DONE!

Congratulate yourself of a well done 8vb !