Loud lm 12

[GhostlyBoy08]

I guess i just really need a heavy weight tuba mouthpiece then. Any suggestions?

[Untersatz]

I guess i just really need a heavy weight tuba mouthpiece then. Any suggestions?

What mouthpiece are you using now?
It helps to know where you are coming from, so others can help you get where you want to be

[GhostlyBoy08]

It looks a bit like a douglas yeo mouthpiece but the only marking it has is 24aw1. Its a little bit heavier than other mouthpieces that Ive used in the past.

[Untersatz]

A 24AW is not a very large mouthpiece. It sounds like you need some a little bigger
than that to get the BIG sound that you want. A Mike Finn MF3B is a very large MP
and it is definitely a heavy wall MP too!

[GhostlyBoy08]

So a mike finn would be good to use? I was thinking that too. I dont think a shallow mouthpiece would work for me. The 24aw1 mouthpiece i use now allows me to get alot of volume when i need it and also lets me get a good full tone. Im a sophomore in high school and i feel im ready for a bigger mouthpiece. Do you have the mike finn 3b? if so tell me your experience. I was also looking to get a size 18 megatone. Basically, Im looking for a mouthpiece that is heavy walled and deep as i want to be able to blend into the band more.

[royjohn]

Here's what I actually said about the LM-12:

The description of the LM-12 at their website indicates that this piece is wide but very shallow. If you want more buzz to carry outdoors, this may be it for you, but I don't think it will actually give you a dark tone with a lot of fundamental in it. Buzz and blatt, yes, but maybe not depth and sonority. Outdoors, where the fundamental cannot really develop as it can in a large room, maybe this is a great piece.

I have added the emphasis to show that I expressed an opinion and did not make any categorical statements. I did not offer a recommendation and I did not say that the LM-12 only gives you buzz and blatt.

KiltieTuba, I did make a search at your suggestion, but what I pulled up seemed to support my view rather than yours, so I asked for your links. I'll take a look at them. Even allowing more than the respect that is due to your replies, I have to think that you need some help with attributing meaning correctly when you quote. If we want to see gross distortion, misquoting and mischaracterizing of the other side's opinion, we can watch the news . . .

But I'm with you on one thing. . . I can't see why anyone would want to cuss at a mild mannered, courteous, kind and non-combative young fellow like yourself, who shows so much reasonableness and cooperation. Such a response CERTAINLY WAS NOT provoked by you.

[royjohn]

Kiltie,
Having looked at the links you posted and searched around some through five topics, here's what I find as the only post which actually mentions the LM-12:

WTB: Loud LM-12
Postby tjcmus » Sun May 01, 2011 5:50 am

Hi,

New to the forum, but owing to a project I've become involved in. It's become necessary to have a mouthpiece that gives that blatty, hard-edged, "good lord that is nasty" sound without bursting a lung to do so..

I know many regard the Loud LM-12 as some what of a gimmick; just good for exactly that. Which is why it's perfect.

Maybe I am misreading this, but he seems to be saying EXACTLY what I said.

Any fool can put a couple of words in a search engine and post the links. It takes a little more intelligence and concern to show your views to best advantage to actually look for what supports them. Where are the other people who are saying that an LM-12 is NOT a mouthpiece that encourages a brilliant, carrying tone, but not a dark and sonorous one?

[Lectron]

Buzz and blatt is pretty much as accurate as it gets

You must be having different results than me

Hey, I found this clip of a guy with a beautiful dark tone playing a LM12

[Untersatz]

Hey, I found this clip of a guy with a beautiful dark tone playing a LM12

Hey Lectron, do you know who that person is playing the sousaphone in that video?

[ppalan]

Well...that's one way to cut down on annoying traffic noise.....
Pete

[Lectron]

Hey, I found this clip of a guy with a beautiful dark tone playing a LM12

Hey Lectron, do you know who that person is playing the sousaphone in that video?

No Idea , but aside having 1st hand knowledge I took up KiltieTubas advise on searching a bit and this was
one of the very few clips I could find. I'm sure it sound better behind the bell

[Donn]

People used to say "ask a stupid question, and you get a stupid answer", but the internet seems to have changed that to "... get a stupid squabble."

If you can't see any problem with the original question, if a Loud 12 can "improve my low register playing", ask yourself what "improve" means? OK, that's pretty clear, "to make better", but what is "better"? Is there a possibility that your idea of "better" is significantly different from mine? If so, what are we talking about? Strike one!

But even if I know what he means by improve ... improve from what? How bad is it, if we might ask? Can't get the notes to sound, can't play them in tune, poorly defined tone? Who knows? Strike two!

But let's talk about which of two mouthpieces will improve, from what we don't know, and in what ideal direction we don't know, or whether there'd be any improvement at all, from ... hey, does everyone but me know what he's playing now? Good grief. Strike three.

Now there's no reason anyone can't say whatever they want in response to questions like this, however ill defined they may be, but it adds an extra burden of clarity inasmuch as one can't rely on the question to provide a meaningful context to the answer.

[Lectron]

Or one can read OP's post history and give an answer based on that info.

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That would of course be unpolite, so I tried a slightly different approach
and answer the question based more on the characteristics of the MP
in question and what they would generally do for ones sound

[tofu]

Who knew... BATMAN stood for Big *** Tuba Man - the super hero of tuba players - fighting evil tuba playing everywhere!

FWIW - I had an LM-12 and did not care for it at all. Pretty much designed for loud and blatty. Too much effort to try to play it any other way. I quickly resold it as well as an LM-7 I had which was great for playing low but much to deep for my taste. I still have my LM-10 Tommy Johnson model which works well with my Miraphone 185.

[GhostlyBoy08]

Ok then i guess im going with either a perantucci pt88+, a mike finn mf3b, A bach megatone 7, or a loud lm 6,7,or 11

[Untersatz]

Be careful, the Bach Megas have like a 9mm bore (throat) they will suck the air right outta you!