Unrecorded works for tuba

[David Zerkel]

Hello Tuba Playing Community.

I'm preparing to get my grant writing crayon out soon to write a proposal for another CD project.

My question to you is this: What are your feelings about good literature that has been thus far unrecorded or under-recorded? (meaning that the work in question was once recorded, but is no longer available)

Let me have it...the choices can be obvious or obscure. Since my employer would like me to publish, I figure I might as well try to fill a void that exists in our recorded history for one reason or another.

You may respond to me directly or to the board...I think answering to the board might generate some interesting banter.

On another note, do you think that having a recording of some of the staples such as the Vaughan Williams, Gregson, and John Williams done with piano accompaniment would be a useful resource, or just plain goofy?

Thanks for your input!

[Matt G]

Maybe I'm just retarded, but I can only remember one recording of the Lebedev. I would like to see another well done recording of this piece.

For the VW, Gregson, and some of the other "stuff" maybe you could put out one of those Music Minus One type cd's for some of those aspiring young players who don't have the resources nearby?

Also, I think that playing the Orchestrated stuff with piano is totally different. When listening to someone blow through it with the orchestra, too many players tend to get that sound in their head and proceed to wail through the literature like a 80 piece orchestra is behind them. I know I have heard that first low F in the VW played WAY out of context on numerous occasions.

I enjoy the Halsey Stevens, but I can only remember Jim Self's rendition of it. Maybe I am missing out on what may now be out there, but if there is only his I think our little tuba world could really enjoy another take on this really fun piece of music.

Feel free to inform me of my ignorance.

Thanks!

[Tom]

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[Mudman]

Has Lebedev's Second Concerto been recorded? I have a bass bone recording by Randy Hawes, but none for tuba.

I always enjoy hearing works that are not over recorded. In the bass trombone world, everybody feels the need to do Lebedev #1. On tenor trombone, it is Defaye's "Deux Danses." Come on guys, how about expanding the repertoire?!!

Does the world need another recording of the VW?

[ThomasP]

I would have a suggestion to record things like the Clinard on euph. I don't know of a recording of the Haddad, Beversdorf, or Nehlybel Suite. There aren't many recordings of Hartley's works that I know of off hand. Or what about a cd of tuba and chamber groups. I would like to see a recording made with an academic purpose rather than a "look at how well I play" recording, eventhough a disc of the songs mentioned above will give insight into ones ability.

[Steve Marcus]

I would like to see a recording made with an academic purpose rather than a "look at how well I play" recording

Just as Czerny exercises have been recorded by and for pianists (issued by Musical Heritage Society), perhaps you could record some tuba etudes, such as Blazhevich, Tyrell, Kopprasch, etc.

Rafael Mendez recorded some of the Arban Characteristic Etudes on trumpet. You could present these on tuba.

[jtuba]

How about the John Harmon "Silhouette"? It's a beautiful lyrical piece written for Sam Pilafian in the early 90's. I played it in recital after hearing my teacher play it on his "Tuba of Love" recital. A couple of other pieces that might be interesting are the Frank Lynn Payne "Sonata" and the Arutunian "Concerto".

[Doug@GT]

On another note, do you think that having a recording of some of the staples such as the Vaughan Williams, Gregson, and John Williams done with piano accompaniment would be a useful resource, or just plain goofy?

Based on how well you did the John Williams last year, I know I'd buy a cd of those.

Just as Czerny exercises have been recorded by and for pianists (issued by Musical Heritage Society), perhaps you could record some tuba etudes, such as Blazhevich, Tyrell, Kopprasch, etc.

I'd second this. I don't know if GMEA still uses the Tyrell book, but a resource like that for students would be invaluable.

[numbnutstubist]

The Sonata for Tuba and Piano by Jim Stabile might be a good choice. I've only ever had the solo part, but it's wonderful writing and very playable. Also, I have an unnacompanied tuba suite that I'm going to be publishing in the next few months. If you'd like, I'll send you a copy.

Best of luck.

[chhite]

Lebedev Con in 1 mov. has been mentioned, and I've never seen or heard a tuba recording of it. Doc

Didn't Jeff Funderburk record that on "Passages?" Don't have my copy close to confirm.

[tubapress]

My question to you is this: What are your feelings about good literature that has been thus far unrecorded or under-recorded? (meaning that the work in question was once recorded, but is no longer available)

There is another wonderful Lebedev work, the Concert Allegro, that is written for Bass Trombone or Tuba and has to my knowledge only been recorded once (by Randall Hawes, Bass Trombonist of Detroit Symphony on his amazing CD entitled "Melodrama"). Its a lushly romantic work that works well on both instruments. It should get more notice than it does!

[dave]

I'd love to have a CD with the Bach Cello Suites played on tuba. There are a lot of movements recorded on various CDs, but I have never seen the complete suites recorded on tuba. As others have said, if I'm wrong, please let me know!

-Dave

[Mudman]

There is another wonderful Lebedev work, the Concert Allegro, that is written for Bass Trombone or Tuba and has to my knowledge only been recorded once (by Randall Hawes, Bass Trombonist of Detroit Symphony on his amazing CD entitled "Melodrama"). Its a lushly romantic work that works well on both instruments. It should get more notice than it does!

Paul Pollard also recorded the Lebedev "Concert Allegro" on his solo CD.

Randy Hawes' "Melodrama" is one of the most musical bass-trombone CD's avaialbe.

Has anybody recorded Lebedev #2 on tuba?

[Steve Marcus]

I would like to see a recording made with an academic purpose rather than a "look at how well I play" recording

Just as Czerny exercises have been recorded by and for pianists (issued by Musical Heritage Society), perhaps you could record some tuba etudes, such as Blazhevich, Tyrell, Kopprasch, etc.

Rafael Mendez recorded some of the Arban Characteristic Etudes on trumpet. You could present these on tuba.

It's 9 years since this original post. Has anyone taken up the gauntlet and recorded Kopprasch, Tyrell, etc. on tuba?

[hbcrandy]

Dave:

I would like to put a plug in for the Frackenpohl, "Concertino for Tuba and Strings". I know of no recording of this piece.

[jamsav]

Ellerbys concerto and warren Bensons Helix would be welcome

[Untersatz]

Since a 9 year old thread has been unearthed, I thought it only fitting to link the thread
of the resulting CD from the OP (David Zerkel) viewtopic.php?t=24040&p=205726" target="_blank" target="_blank
For other members, like myself, that weren't around in 2007.

[MackBrass]

Hi Dave,

Glad to hear of this. I have studied and performed about 10 of the Herber L Clarke Trumpet solos and if you could add one or two of them to your list that would be great. They are all very entertaining to listen to and if you think out of the box on them you can take anyone of them to a new level.

To be honest, recording them was a goal of mine and you can live my dream for me.

Just my thoughts,

Tom

[David Zerkel]

Hi All,

I was unaware that this thread had been resurrected!

While I am flattered that some think that I might be the guy to take this on, I say in complete honesty that there are much better players than I out there to make this happen. Dozens.

The mind is there, but the body less willing.

Cheers!
Dave

[Untersatz]

Well Dave, for what it's worth, your "Tuba Helper" CD is an amazing & wonderful thing!
I listen to it regularly in my car. Thanks for the beautiful music!