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A lot of movement/shifting, but it sounds amazing. Do what works, don't be excessive for no reason.
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It depends on what is moving and how. If your lips are moving with every articulation, it just may be a problem. Maybe. If it's chin moving, like chewing each note, that's more likely a problem. Cheeks, eyes,eyebrows, ears, scalp, probably not a problem.
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A few of my past euphonium section mates have commented on how my face moves when I play. They had a good view of it because they were sitting to my right. :)

I find that my face moves a lot with the euphonium and not so much on tuba, trombone, and trumpet. I think that the angle of the horn has a lot to do with my facial movement.
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bloke wrote:The (debilitating) thing that I've seen a few players do (two professionals who work around the Mid-South, among others) is to RESET their embouchure for every single note or musical event. Needless to say, that habit is a horrible stumbling block.
So...they never use one consistent embourchure? Interesting. Could it be because of weak chops bloke?
Also, lets add this into this thread: the the bell of a tuba of sousaphone require more attention to your hearing because of where it's at. I'm asking because for example what I think is MF, is FF to others. Like to know what y'all think about that.
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goodgigs wrote:All right, I can't resist !
TB, watch this video and learn.
It is the best study of embrsure ever undertaken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyxXOcHhYV4" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

As to listening to yourself; I propose you can train yourself quick and easy.
Go outside where it's quiet and stand next to a brick or stucco wall. Play as quietly as you possibly can. Then
Walk back fifty feet and do it again. Then go another fifty feet. And then another fifty feet and so on until you're
250-300 feet away. You won't here yourself after about 100-150 feet but I want you to try it at twice that far.
You'll notice that you still hear something even at maximum distance; it just won't sound very distinct.
The point of this last part is this: You'll be contributing to the band's sound even when you can't hear yourself as long as you're playing !

Another young man posted most of the same questions a few months ago and asked me how to play louder and I had to admit
I don't know how. I told him of the times I warmed up to play alone in a forty piece band and thought "there's know way" but when
We stepped off, I found I had it covered easily. I guess I just relaxed and let my mouth do its own thing.
Got ya goodgigs. And about the feet thing, I can't really do that. But this week, I'm going to be paying extra extra attention to what I'm doing and the kind of sound I'm producing. Needless to say its gonna be a mind-taxing affair. But it's gotta be done.
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goodgigs wrote:
wrote:Got ya goodgigs. And about the feet thing, I can't really do that. But this week, I'm going to be paying extra extra attention to what I'm doing and the kind of sound I'm producing. Needless to say its gonna be a mind-taxing affair. But it's gotta be done.
Excuse me tuba bossa nova, I think you're missing something important here:
Just as tape recorders have volume controls, big rooms - and especially small rooms - distort your sound and change what you hear.
I highly recommend playing outdoors. If you don't have a building you can echo against, you can still play outdoors with your section mates and
get them to play at different volumes and different distances to experiment. You need to here yourself (or other tubas) the way other people do.
Recording is great for articulation and tuning, but nothing will show you your own dynamic levels as well as hearing echoes - be they outdoor echoes or
indoor echoes in a huge room somewhere.
Maybe play in the gym or just take your tuba to church. (I would recommend waiting until service is over though). :lol:

PS I found a comment on one of my videos where someone called my horn the devil’s voice. :shock:

PPS please don’t feel insulted: the “bossa nova” was once a very popular dance. 8)
Playing outside I have done recently. I usually take my sousaphone outside and screw around. I am able to hear an echo(a pretty audible one) when playing a low E at FFF. It's a pretty distant echo too. So that's pretty cool. My low range is coming up to par with my middle register.

I'll try and get a video up of me playing outside sometime this week. And I'll send it to you. And you can critique it.
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goodgigs wrote:PPS please don’t feel insulted: the “bossa nova” was once a very popular dance. 8)
:shock: I've never heard the term "bossa nova" referred to as a dance before :shock:

Bossa Nova is a style of music that originated in South America (Brazil, if I'm not mistaken).
It's a beat (a rhythm) and I still love it! Good music NEVER goes out of style with me :)
Here is about the best example of what bossa nova is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FolEno814Gk" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Hey, that bass solo at 2:04 would be very cool on tuba! :tuba:
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Oh Geeez, well if Eydie Gormé calls it a dance.........it must be so :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I honestly have never heard of bosa nova. Need to check it out it seems.
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You might look up the lyrics to "Blame It On The Bossa Nova".
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Tuboss2 wrote:I honestly have never heard of bosa nova. Need to check it out it seems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJkxFhFRFDA" target="_blank" target="_blank
Hey Tuboss2 here is one of the most popular songs from back in the day that I think EVERYBODY
has heard at least once at some point in their life. This is a more mellow & slower from of bossa nova
but I think you get the idea...........it's the beat, the rhythm :)
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I'll give it a listen pretty soon.
Honestly, resonance is a thing I've had a question about. Anyone wanna explain why people always talk about resonance? I know what it is and all, but I'd like a deeper understanding of it.

PS: y'all probably think I'm using this thread to ask every question about tuba that I have...you're right, I am. :)
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I like the last comment posted on that YouTube clip of Astrud Gilberto & Stan Getz doing Girl From Ipanema:

"I am almost 18 and surprisingly i like this song. This is real music"

Yes, it is. Maybe there's hope for "real music" when a 17 year old notices.
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