Arban Question New Carl Fischer Edition

[Sandlapper]

My question is about the Arban's Complete Conservatory Method for Tuba (New Authentic Edition) J.B. Arban/ed. Michael Roylance - Carl Fischer LLC. Does anyone know if this was written for Eb and BBb Tuba like the old Arban - Prescott First and Second Year or is it geared for the CC. Thanks for any information on this (possible?) new edition.

I found this listing on the jwpepper website, but could not find this on the Fischer site so I don't know if its available or not. It doesn't seem to show up anywhere else.

http://www.jwpepper.com/Arban's-Complet ... rSfDvGA2Uk" target="_blank

Thanks for any information you can provide

[Sandlapper]

I just found this on the Carl Fischer web site. http://www.carlfischer.com/Fischer/band ... rimer.html" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
Looks like its not out yet.

[imperialbari]

When this version was first issued some decade ago, a few sample pages were shown here on TubeNet. As I remember it they were a minor seventh below the trombone version, which again is an octave below the trumpet version (if played on a Bb trumpet). That is: the tuba version is intended for CC tubas.

Klaus (only having two trumpet versions of Arban, the oldest one in rags and missing pages)

[sailn2ba]

Haven't seen the new Carl Fischer, but the Encore edition (1996 - 2007) edited by Young and Jacobs is pitched for CC tuba relative to Bb trumpet.

[Sandlapper]

It would be nice if there was an Arban for the BBb. I may have to get the euphonium and learn to play it down an octave, but it would be nice to play what you see as written and not have to add the component of transposition. I've only been back playing for a couple of years and anything that makes practice easier is good, very good. I had seen several comments re the CC version from post at various places wishing for a BBb book and hoped someone in the publishing world had seen those comments and responded. Bah Humbug.

[imperialbari]

Ever played trumpet, mellophone, alto horn, or treble clef baritone?

If so, use what is often called ‘trumpet fingerings’.

If you are out for a scale system dedicated to each of the low brass pitches, you may download mine for free:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Yo ... 0routines/

I also have interval routines:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Yo ... 20brasses/

Klaus

[Sandlapper]

Thanks Klaus!

Merry Christmas,

John

[Radar]

I bought the Edition Transcribed by Jerry Young & Wesley Jacobs sold by Encore Music Publishers, and I was a little disappointed in it. I thought it would be more like the Arban's Trombone or Trumpet Editions that I owned. I found the Tuba version at least this one to be watered down and less challenging than the Trombone or Trumpet Editions. The book wasn't a total waste but I just don't think it was as thorough as the Trombone or Trumpet Editions. Perhaps this isn't a good comparison. I've actually been playing more from the Trombone edition taking things down an octave. Do these other Arban's editions for Tuba contain additional or different material that isn't covered in the Young Jacobs edition?

[Tom Coffey]

This is one of those topics that some (maybe many) people have strong feelings about. The following observation, then, is no more than my personal perspective, offered only because it benefitted me so much to learn to read the original Arban's for trumpet.
This was required by my teacher, who had, himself, studied with Bill Bell. Once I learned to read the book as written for trumpet (meaning that the written C means play the fundamental pitch of the tuba in your hands) I had a passport into brass playing that trumpet players have had for years. When you hear great players like Bobo or Sheridan playing Carnival of Venice, you can bet they are reading the original version. There is a lot of good to be had by learning to read from the trumpet part, including ready access to all of the traditional melodies not included in many transcriptions. Also, this gives you the facility to play treble clef euphonium parts, and to read ( at least on a CC tuba) hymns with the organist. More importantly, perhaps, the ability to read treble clef well is critical to playing most pop and jazz styles.
Finally, unlocking treble clef, at pitch or in trumpet fingerings or both helps liberate your mind from slavery to written bass clef parts, and allows you to understand how the big picture (musically speaking) works.
I would recommend the effort of learning to read the original version very strongly.

[Mark]

Has this book been published?

[Norm in Bellevue]

J.W. Pepper has it listed for $29.98, and that includes a CD. I've no idea if it's geared for BBb or CC tuba.

[Mark]

J.W. Pepper has it listed for $29.98, and that includes a CD. I've no idea if it's geared for BBb or CC tuba.

Pepper indicates it is not delivering yet.

[timothy42b]

This is one of those topics that some (maybe many) people have strong feelings about. The following observation, then, is no more than my personal perspective, offered only because it benefitted me so much to learn to read the original Arban's for trumpet.
This was required by my teacher, who had, himself, studied with Bill Bell. .

And if you can learn to read the trumpet part, it's free. Arban's is public domain and can be downloaded from IMSLP.

[windshieldbug]

The following observation, then, is no more than my personal perspective, offered only because it benefitted me so much to learn to read the original Arban's for trumpet. This was required by my teacher, who had, himself, studied with Bill Bell. Once I learned to read the book as written for trumpet (meaning that the written C means play the fundamental pitch of the tuba in your hands) I had a passport into brass playing that trumpet players have had for years.

My teacher was a New York student of Bell's, and after the trumpet book he had me playing the trombone book an octave lower to learn to read string bass parts. Never regretted it!

[Mark]

I can read trumpet parts. I can read trombone and string bass parts.

What I'd like to know is if this book has been published?

[timothy42b]

I can read trumpet parts. I can read trombone and string bass parts.

What I'd like to know is if this book has been published?

Dunno about the Carl Fischer edition, but there's a new trumpet book out, only 954 pages!

http://newarban.com/" target="_blank