Big small shank baritone mouthpiece help

[Chasetbr]

I am a senior in high school and this will be my 7th year playing tuba. Last year I decided to teach myself trombone, I play in the jazz band and last year I played trombone in the lower level band at our school to get my feet wet. Our director had a "bass trombone" in the back so I have been playing that (an old but nice large bore reynolds contepora with a single valve). Recently I have had an interest to pick up baritone because I want to try out for TBDBITL and want to have a secondary instrument tryout. So my question is what small shank baritone mouthpiece should I get. I currently play with a TU-29 miraphone mouthpiece on my 186 and a bach 1 1/2 G on my bass bone. Both are very large. The mouthpiece I have now that was with the horn I borrowed is a standard 6 1/2 mouthpiece. It sounds pretty good, but its kinda small and different for me, bigger is always better I think for more sound and fuller tone. Any suggestions on a good small shank mouthpiece with a little bigger size? thanks

[Radar]

I've got a Yamaha YEP-321 that I use a Dennis Wick 4AY with. That mouthpiece although smaller than your bass bone mouthpiece will be much bigger than the 6 you're using now.

[J.c. Sherman]

I'm not sure what TBDHOTRFK means, but are you meaning "baritone" in the coloquial sense (euphonium) or "baritone" in the Brass-band/saxhorn sense?

[Chasetbr]

I'm not sure what TBDHOTRFK means

The Best Damn Band In The Land! The OSU Marching band! does dotting the "i" ring a bell on these forums? haha

All jokes aside I mean euphonium as in the conical bore instrument not the cylindrical.

[J.c. Sherman]

I'm not sure what TBDHOTRFK means

The Best Damn Band In The Land! The OSU Marching band! does dotting the "i" ring a bell on these forums? haha

All jokes aside I mean euphonium as in the conical bore instrument not the cylindrical.

***GASP*** Baritones are NOT cylindrical No more than a French Horn or Cornet. But I take your meaning. Try a standard 5G or 51D. I always recommend a double play a mouthpiece appropriate to the instrument first, not appropriate to them Bigger, you risk a flat top end. Smaller, you risk an atypical sound. More exotic and specialized, you go broke

J.c.S.

[Chasetbr]

Thank you so much. I know what you mean I was just trying to make sure you knew what I was talking about. haha! But ***GASP*** you are an Ohioan tuba player who does not know what TBDBITL is?? thanks for the help!

[Levaix]

I've got a Yamaha YEP-321 that I use a Dennis Wick 4AY with. That mouthpiece although smaller than your bass bone mouthpiece will be much bigger than the 6 you're using now.

4AY is probably the biggest I would go on a marching band "baritone." I play one size bigger on my large bore euphonium.

[PMeuph]

Honestly, I'd try a Schilke 52E2, It's not huge, but it's about as big as it gets in terms of easily available small shank mouthpieces.

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The 52E2 will help you develop a more characteristic sound than trying to play on something that's too big for the instrument.
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Doug Elliot could probably make something that's nearly tuba sized, but I doubt that even he would advocate that. Plus his mouthpieces aren't cheap.

[imperialbari]

Denis Wick 4AY

Vincent Bach #3

[bearphonium]

I found a Shilke 52E did the trick on a small shank Euph. If you're going to play marching horn (and I think that alphabet band in another O state uses the 3 valve bell front horns) a Shilke 51D might do the trick.

[aqualung]

Just use the 6½.

Marching jerkily around with 191 other TBDBers, for a stadium full of 100000 drunken alumni, it won't make a damn bit of difference.

[WC8KCY]

I use a Schilke 58, custom-ordered with a tenor trombone shank, on my Yamaha YEP-321S. Unfortunately, a custom Schilke costs a lot more nowadays than the US$80 I paid in 1994 or so. It's glorious for section playing, but some solo work is better done on a Bach 6.5AL.

On a typical front-action American-style baritone such as a Conn 14i or Olds Ambassador, this would be too damn big. A Bach 7, to my ears, strikes a good balance--dark enough to keep the woofiness of these instruments at bay, but not too big or deep a cup to make the high register tiring to play.

I would be inclined to give the 51D a try before ordering a 52E2. I find the Type 2 rim profile on Schilke mouthpieces to be very fatiguing.