3+1 EEb in Orchestra?
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Antontuba
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Re: 3+1 EEb in Orchestra?
Played Tchaik 1 on my Besson 981, DW 5L this afternoon, many compliments.
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barry grrr-ero
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Re: 3+1 EEb in Orchestra?
Let's just clear one thing up. Whether you agree with him or not, 'Fletch' did not believe in using a 3+1 eefer on everything. He felt that doing so was, quote, "bone idleness", unquote (his words, not mine). He did not share some of cohorts belief that you could simply show up to any and all gigs with a 3+1 eefer. In fact, all efforts to enlarge the B&H Eb tuba were directly due to John Fletcher. As many of you will know, he quite often used a Holton 345 CC in the LSO that Arnold Jacobs had found for him. He expressed to me his concern that the Holton might, in fact, sound too big for the LSO and RFH. But at that time, there wasn't the abundance of good 5/4 CC tubas that you have now. Regardless, he sounded great no matter what tuba was in his lap.
At the time I was over there (early '80s), the guy in the LPO was using a B&H 3+1 compensating CC tuba. My understanding is that it's almost impossible to find one of those that will play even reasonably well in tune. I tried one and it was awful - I sent it back. FYI.
Barry 'make me a really good 3+1 CC tuba and I'll buy it' Guerrero
At the time I was over there (early '80s), the guy in the LPO was using a B&H 3+1 compensating CC tuba. My understanding is that it's almost impossible to find one of those that will play even reasonably well in tune. I tried one and it was awful - I sent it back. FYI.
Barry 'make me a really good 3+1 CC tuba and I'll buy it' Guerrero
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cjk
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Re: 3+1 EEb in Orchestra?
lol. the valves are 6 inches higher than the receiver. how could that be remotely comfortable??bloke wrote:ahh yes...the "orchestral model".Curmudgeon wrote:If I had an Eb and a BBb that I felt I could part out, I'd like to mix and match those parts into a CC. Maybe even build a bell front/bell up set up like the bloke Eb.
The bows on the BBb are so long and so gently tapered, I suspect (??) that is all the parts that might be needed.
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Re: 3+1 EEb in Orchestra?
It's simply the "ape hanger" version!!
I am committed to the advancement of civil rights, minus the Marxist intimidation and thuggery of BLM.
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imperialbari
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Re: 3+1 EEb in Orchestra?
It is the low cut for the bell ferrules that causes the downward bend of the leadpipe.
My straight bell version has a horizontal leadpipe. As I hold the tuba vertically on its K&M stand, my right hand doesn’t always like its high position. Sometimes it goes numb.
As for the bell front version the visuals as well a the ergonomics very much dictate the tuba to be held almost horizontally.
Klaus
My straight bell version has a horizontal leadpipe. As I hold the tuba vertically on its K&M stand, my right hand doesn’t always like its high position. Sometimes it goes numb.
As for the bell front version the visuals as well a the ergonomics very much dictate the tuba to be held almost horizontally.
Klaus