Hi Everyone,
I was wondering if anybody has tried a set of MAW valves in one of the newer King 2341's? I'm pretty happy with my horn, but everything can be improved, right? A bit more low end might be nice, some slurring help might be cool, and I find the valves in the King to be the 'Achilles' heel' of these horns anyway. Any comments or experience?
Thanks.
Peace
ASG
MAW valves for a 'newer' King 2341's
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Re: MAW valves for a 'newer' King 2341's
I tried them. I can't say they improved or changed anything about the horn. But you and others may have different experiences.
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Re: MAW valves for a 'newer' King 2341's
It does, although I have never taken it off myself, Matt, at Dillons took it off one day for a chem clean of the valve section one day while I was over there.bloke wrote:Does the valve section completely unbolt?
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Re: MAW valves for a 'newer' King 2341's
I was considering sending my horn off to Martin to do the valves and having him change the 4th valve tubing slide while he was at it, and I hadn't heard of Dave Secrist until now. My horn is committed to a road gig until January right now, so I was hoping to hear some opinions on the MAW valves while I have some time to decide. My 2 old King's definitely have better valves than my newer one, in fact, they're what make me think that this horn can be improved.bloke wrote:My experience with later-made 2341 tubas is (price/production pressures?) that the piston/casing tolerance isn't as close as (well...) it was in the 1960's.
I'm wondering if you could unbolt your valveset, ask Martin to sell you some barely-oversize pistons, and send the valveset + new pistons to Dave Secrist. You would end up with fabulous and fabulously-fitted pistons.
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Re: MAW valves for a 'newer' King 2341's
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Everything Bloke said.
The design of those horns isn't half bad at all and it could be argued that it's one of the better *designed* BBbs available on the market. However, the assembly just plain stinks and isn't appreciably better than some Chinese stuff.
If I owned one I would pull it completely apart and rebuild the entire horn from the ground up possibly with more and/or different bracing. In my limited experience, there's enough flex in the horn that a small bump in the wrong place can put pressure on the valves and make them hang.
Everything Bloke said.
The design of those horns isn't half bad at all and it could be argued that it's one of the better *designed* BBbs available on the market. However, the assembly just plain stinks and isn't appreciably better than some Chinese stuff.
If I owned one I would pull it completely apart and rebuild the entire horn from the ground up possibly with more and/or different bracing. In my limited experience, there's enough flex in the horn that a small bump in the wrong place can put pressure on the valves and make them hang.