If you could design your own tuba...
- bort
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
Rotary and made in America.
Shouldn't be impossible, but it pretty much is.
Shouldn't be impossible, but it pretty much is.
- Kevin_Iaquinto
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
Bell: 23"
Bore: 1"
Size: 3/4
Bore: 1"
Size: 3/4
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UDELBR
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
Big 20 inch "pancake" bell like on old American horns, Eb, 19mm valve set. As pictured, my go-to horn 70% of the time.


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hduong
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
CC Silver Plated
20" bell
4p+1r setup all vented
no spit keys at all
not sure what else at this point
20" bell
4p+1r setup all vented
no spit keys at all
not sure what else at this point
- cambrook
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
Interesting looking tuba UncleBeer, can you tell me more about it?Big 20 inch "pancake" bell like on old American horns, Eb, 19mm valve set. As pictured, my go-to horn 70% of the time.
Thanks
Cam
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
Since they really haven't done anything to progress their tuba line in awhile I've always wanted to collaborate with Alexander to make a new 6/4 F tuba and then also a new 5/4 CC tuba. Make something new and modern with a graduated bore, while keeping the classic Alex sound and color.
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=71372" target="_blankhduong wrote:CC Silver Plated
20" bell
4p+1r setup all vented
no spit keys at all
not sure what else at this point
The 19" bell is the only real difference. (The rotary valve isn't vented, but that is a matter of 10 minutes.)
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
25J
3+1 compensating valve system
3+1 compensating valve system
Miraphone 191
Yamaha YBL-613HS Bass Trombone
Yamaha YBL-613HS Bass Trombone
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EMC
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
Maybe not, but I'd like to see something new from them,tuben wrote:You can't have it both ways......EMC wrote:Make something new and modern with a graduated bore, while keeping the classic Alex sound and color.
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
I pretty much did:
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Jupiter JTU1110
"Real" Conn 36K
"Real" Conn 36K
- cjk
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
intonation
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other stuff
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
I'd like to see the Rudy Meinl 4345 CC rotary tuba redesigned to Eb.
JP/Sterling 377 compensating Eb; Warburton "The Grail" T.G.4, RM-9 7.8, Yamaha 66D4; for sale > 1914 Conn Monster Eb (my avatar), ca. 1905 Fillmore Bros 1/4-size Eb, Bach 42B trombone
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UDELBR
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
It started as an HN White (forerunner of the King company) monster Eb 3 valve upright instrument. The valves are off my HB2P (never did like that horn!) and the rest is homebuilt.cambrook wrote: Interesting looking tuba UncleBeer, can you tell me more about it?
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
You only need to ask Rudi, and bring your checkbook ...GC wrote:I'd like to see the Rudy Meinl 4345 CC rotary tuba redesigned to Eb.
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
Do you see holes in American cheese??bort wrote:Rotary and made in America.
Shouldn't be impossible, but it pretty much is.
Metric in GM cars??
American tubas have piston valves.
Case closed!!
I am committed to the advancement of civil rights, minus the Marxist intimidation and thuggery of BLM.
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
Downright criminal that this tuba has to live it's life locked up in a museum. Well, unless it's a turd of a player.
- Billy M.
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
Ok, just for s#!ts and giggles I'll jump in:
A true 5/4 CC tuba (not 6/4- or 4/4+) with better than Miraphone 188 intonation, Lee Stofer-esque build quality, Kanstul pistons (best I've ever touched), short-throw fifth rotor, impeccable response, solid slotting, plays fantastically in all registers, and beautiful sounding at any dynamic level in any register.
If not pistons, then a rotor version would be just fine.
I'm not asking much </sarcasm off>
A true 5/4 CC tuba (not 6/4- or 4/4+) with better than Miraphone 188 intonation, Lee Stofer-esque build quality, Kanstul pistons (best I've ever touched), short-throw fifth rotor, impeccable response, solid slotting, plays fantastically in all registers, and beautiful sounding at any dynamic level in any register.
If not pistons, then a rotor version would be just fine.
I'm not asking much </sarcasm off>
Romans 3:23-24
Billy Morris
Rudolf Meinl Model 45, Musikmesse Horn
Boosey & Hawkes Imperial Eb (19" Bell)
1968 Besson New Standard Eb (15" Bell)
Billy Morris
Rudolf Meinl Model 45, Musikmesse Horn
Boosey & Hawkes Imperial Eb (19" Bell)
1968 Besson New Standard Eb (15" Bell)
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
And see what happened??the elephant wrote:Only since about 1975...Three Valves wrote:Metric in GM cars??
No, no I say...
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
My tuba would be something like this:
Key of EEb
6/4 Size with the same bell throat size as my BMB 6/4
.750" - .827" Bore
Front Action Pistons
4 valve with compensating system
In Silver Plate
Or just take a Besson 983 and rebuild it as a 6/4 size horn. I'm sure the intonation would suck though haha!
Key of EEb
6/4 Size with the same bell throat size as my BMB 6/4
.750" - .827" Bore
Front Action Pistons
4 valve with compensating system
In Silver Plate
Or just take a Besson 983 and rebuild it as a 6/4 size horn. I'm sure the intonation would suck though haha!
Melton 2155R 5/4 CC Tuba
Conn International Rotary 4/4 BBb Tuba
Conn International Rotary 4/4 BBb Tuba
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Re: If you could design your own tuba...
Very simply:
A CC BAT made from very thin and light metal that feels vibrant and responsive, but yet will not dent.
A valve section that is below the level of the heart and oriented to the players side of the horn closer to the bell.
A relativey in tune harmonic series, but yet with a double action MTS tuner.
Lightweight valves and springs - of course piston.
4 pistons, 1 rotary (top loading rotor)
Several exchangeble lead pipes and receivers.
Saturn water keys.
20 inch bell.
Frosted silver with bright highlights.
All tuning slides tested to be parallel and the uppers lapped for and easy pull.
Space-age silver that doesn't tarnish.
A CC BAT made from very thin and light metal that feels vibrant and responsive, but yet will not dent.
A valve section that is below the level of the heart and oriented to the players side of the horn closer to the bell.
A relativey in tune harmonic series, but yet with a double action MTS tuner.
Lightweight valves and springs - of course piston.
4 pistons, 1 rotary (top loading rotor)
Several exchangeble lead pipes and receivers.
Saturn water keys.
20 inch bell.
Frosted silver with bright highlights.
All tuning slides tested to be parallel and the uppers lapped for and easy pull.
Space-age silver that doesn't tarnish.
Wessex 5/4 CC "Wyvern"
Wessex 4/4 F "Berg"
Wessex Cimbasso F
Mack Euphonium
Mack Bass Trombone
Conn 5V Double Bell Euphonium (casually for sale to an interested party)
Wessex 4/4 F "Berg"
Wessex Cimbasso F
Mack Euphonium
Mack Bass Trombone
Conn 5V Double Bell Euphonium (casually for sale to an interested party)
