Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

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phaymore wrote:I'm thinking a copy of a Boosey Cavalry tuba would be awesome!
It is a tuba I would personally like myself, but am unsure of the market.

Not many British player will buy because "the bell points the wrong way!". - While my perception is not many American tubists like the 3+1 valve set-up.
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Neptune wrote:While my perception is not many American tubists like the 3+1 valve set-up.

I just had a friend buy a Yamaha 3+1 Eb because he was developing arthritis in his little finger...
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cktuba wrote:Something like a 5/4 Rudy Meinl in CC and/or BBb.....
I'll second the Rudy 5/4. However... instead of just 'copying' how it looks, start from the INSIDE and make a rotor that has all the proper clearances, tolerances, and surface finish conditions. Once WESSEX gets that stuff right... it should be pretty easy to measure the tubing tapers and lengths build the rest of the horn.

Then you can call it a 'copy'.
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I like the idea of a 6/4 York CC copy.
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Douglas wrote:I like the idea of a 6/4 York CC copy.
+1. A sub-$6,000 5-valve 6/4 CC would be very tempting.
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I agree, an affordable 6/4 York CC with an INDEPENDENT 5th would be great
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DouglasJB wrote:I agree, an affordable 6/4 York CC with an INDEPENDENT 5th would be great
Agreed, 5th must be independent! I think that may have been the biggest weakness, aside from intonation, with the BMB 6/4 York style tuba.
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Also the "compact" nature of the CSO York style horns. A Nirschl or a Yorkbrunner are comfortable to hold, the BMB 6/4 was a little hard for me to reach around.
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58mark wrote: Either add a 4th valve to a yamaha 103,
Tom McGrady already did that. He would have to speak for himself, but my guess as to the reason it disappeared would have to be that sales might have been disappointing.
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Mark, look at the Eastman 226, seems to be a copy of a 621. Looks to be a good size for middle school students
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58mark wrote:..... I'm not convinced that Jinbao rotors are good to go right out of the box like public school would need for young players. But the quality of the pistons seem good (as long as the threads on the valve caps were good) .....
WOW! This is the first useful statement I've heard from anyone besides myself regarding the Jinbao instruments.
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When Wessex started 5 years ago, valve thread on piston valves was a big problem, but a lot of investment has since been done to make improvements in that area and now they are pretty good. We can today check 100 tubas/euphonium at factory without finding a single valve threading issue.

As said previously, until this thread I had heard little of rotary valve problems - and have experienced few ourselves - so that has not been a focus of attention. Now I am aware everything is not always as good as it could be, you can be confident will be sorted and quickly - like next visit to factory in 3 weeks.

I will look into adding front piston student BBb to Wessex range. Have a couple of ideas to investigate. If 3 valves and top action valves are acceptable then the existing TB330 Junior BBb does play amazingly well for a student tuba. I am always impressed with them whenever I play test.
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I would like to see nickel silver leadpipes. The harder metal gives better responsiveness and dent resistance in a crucial area. Miraphone is doing this.
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sweaty wrote:I would like to see nickel silver leadpipes. The harder metal gives better responsiveness and dent resistance in a crucial area. Miraphone is doing this.
Wessex does have some models with nickel lead pipes, but most are of gold brass (84% copper) as I think that warms the tone, as well as being resistant to red rot.
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58mark wrote:I'm talking about something different that is not available commonly, a 4 valve front action horn, preferably with an adjustable height leadpipe
I fully understand and have idea of how to make. Will discuss with Wessex production manager who is a technical genius :)
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Neptune wrote: I will look into adding front piston student BBb to Wessex range. Have a couple of ideas to investigate. If 3 valves and top action valves are acceptable then the existing TB330 Junior BBb does play amazingly well for a student tuba. I am always impressed with them whenever I play test.
I'm into my second year with mine, the valve threads are flawless and except for the ergonomics I'm quite pleased with it.

Every time I play something that costs three times as much, it gets strangely more comfortable!!
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Three Valves wrote:except for the ergonomics I'm quite pleased with it.
Out of interest, what don't you like about the ergonomics? I just ask to see if it is something we might improve.

Although of course ergonomics are not something we are ever going to get right for everyone - us all being different sizes
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It's just the top action in general, not specific to the tuba.

Only a matter of preference.
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Personally I would like 2 different piston f tubas and 2 different piston cc tubas

Something like the Yamaha yfb-821, and the Melton 2250

And for the cc a Yamaha Ycb-681, and a 6/4 cc like the yamayork!

Of course I'm not saying to make exact copies but just to give an idea.
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