"Don't warm UP either"
-Example #1 why I tell all of my students to never, ever go to Tubenet for serious playing advice.
"President Usama"
-Example #2 why I tell all of my students to never, ever go to Tubenet for serious playing advice.
"Whatever bs self-righteous responses this post elicits, which I will not be reading"
Example #3 why I tell all of my students to never, ever go to Tubenet for serious playing advice.
Sorry, I know a lot of you personally and many of you are great people and some close friends, but after reading these types of comments (many of them written and accepted as Gospel) over the years think it's best if I'm done here permanently. I'm sure that many of you will agree that I should be after this. Best of luck to all in your musical endeavors.
Do you warm down?
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I get it, you tell them to come here for the robust and diverse conversation!!mceuph wrote:
-Example #1 why I tell all of my students to never, ever go to Tubenet for serious playing advice.
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Right on.bloke wrote: (I also can't help but wonder if - particularly at a small venue or church - if "brass players fiddling around and making non-performance noises on their instruments on stage" is somewhat annoying...EVEN - or particularly - IF the patrons or congregants are involved in conversation, as - let's face it, we who perform are in "show business". Think of this: Actors don't wander around onstage gesturing and shouting their lines prior to the performance of a play.)
Once the house was open, Sousa would not allow a single note to be played by any of his musicians. He wanted the first sounds to be heard by his audience to be the first note of the first piece on the program. I suspect there was some showmanship involved with this policy, but the side benefit was courtesy to the audience.
I don't think his musicians suffered very much from this policy. Either get there early to warm up, or do it at home before you leave for the gig (as I usually do).
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It's kind of a conundrum, though, isn't it? What to do with people who will accept stuff as Gospel? They sure shouldn't be reading Tubenet, but ... where can they find absolute truth that they can receive, safely despite this mental infirmity?mceuph wrote:but after reading these types of comments (many of them written and accepted as Gospel) over the years
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Intellectual curiosity must be controlled and suppressed in order to grow, you Shaman!!Donn wrote:It's kind of a conundrum, though, isn't it? What to do with people who will accept stuff as Gospel? They sure shouldn't be reading Tubenet, but ... where can they find absolute truth that they can receive, safely despite this mental infirmity?mceuph wrote:but after reading these types of comments (many of them written and accepted as Gospel) over the years
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Yes, I guess that effectively removes the Sousa Band from my list of musicians I will emulatebloke wrote:How could they have possibly, then, sounded "good" on their first piece - with the inside of their instrument dry, their lips dry, and only normal blood flow to the muscles around their mouths...??roweenie wrote:Once the house was open, Sousa would not allow a single note to be played by any of his musicians. He wanted the first sounds to be heard by his audience to be the first note of the first piece on the program.
I don't think his musicians suffered very much from this policy. Either get there early to warm up, or do it at home before you leave for the gig (as I usually do).
I think you just made that stuff up.
Actually, I heard it (personally) from Loras Schissel - I guess he's the one who made it up......
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I hope you realize you have been publicly harrumphed.

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Warm down? If you are playing, YOU ARE NOT WARMING DOWN, you are playing. Need a warm down? Try putting the horn in the case.... Really ....
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And maybe that's it. A 2+hr brass band rehearsal or concert is a serious smack in the face; way more than any orchestral show (probably) or quintet/orchestral brass gig.lost wrote:...unless you were playing at some silly dynamic level for an hour... .
Over here in the UK I'd say it's quite common to have players spend a minute or so playing down, usually into pedal tones. I find after a really heavy session it quickly helps 'reset' the chops, stopping them feeling tight and helps minimise swelling the next morning.
Roger Bobo had a mouthpiece made with an extra wide internal diameter rim for him to buzz on to relax his chops. I think that sort of practice might have been common(?), with trumpet players buzzing a little on a trombone mouthpiece...
Clearly not doing a warm down doesn't do any harm but I'll still do a minute or so after a heavy session; I like it...
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