20 inch laquer Kanstul bell. Beautiful shape, bought to attempt on my 36J, but am going a different direction now.
It fits 75% of the way, and the horn plays well with it, but the complete bell replacement will still happen, just not quite yet...
1K firm
Kanstul Conn 20J replacement bell 1K
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bigboymusic
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Kanstul Conn 20J replacement bell 1K
Paul Weissenborn
St. Joseph Symphony Orchestra (MO)
Spirit of Independence Band
SJSO Quintet
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St. Joseph Symphony Orchestra (MO)
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bigboymusic
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Re: Kanstul Conn 20J replacement bell 1K
Nope, they are VERY close. The hope also was that it would bring the pitch down a hair to help the third partial, but it plays exactly the same. Sounds very good, but if I'm gonna drop some bucks in this, I'll aim for higher than very good.
Paul Weissenborn
St. Joseph Symphony Orchestra (MO)
Spirit of Independence Band
SJSO Quintet
Alex 163 CC
YEB 321S
St. Joseph Symphony Orchestra (MO)
Spirit of Independence Band
SJSO Quintet
Alex 163 CC
YEB 321S
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bigboymusic
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Re: Kanstul Conn 20J replacement bell 1K
Even when I called Kanstul (before I found this one) he has made a 36 J tenon, they are just a touch smaller and the 36J collar is smaller at the bottom than the top. Just ever so slightly. So the Kanstul bell will slide in to a point, then it stops short of fitting.....
FYI Ziggy will take orders for a 20J bell, but was not interested in fabricating a 36.. They would however make a whole new bell from the bow up....
FYI Ziggy will take orders for a 20J bell, but was not interested in fabricating a 36.. They would however make a whole new bell from the bow up....
Paul Weissenborn
St. Joseph Symphony Orchestra (MO)
Spirit of Independence Band
SJSO Quintet
Alex 163 CC
YEB 321S
St. Joseph Symphony Orchestra (MO)
Spirit of Independence Band
SJSO Quintet
Alex 163 CC
YEB 321S
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bigboymusic
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Re: Kanstul Conn 20J replacement bell 1K
And Bloke, I really like the laquer on Silver look. It just doesn't quite do what it needs to do....
Paul Weissenborn
St. Joseph Symphony Orchestra (MO)
Spirit of Independence Band
SJSO Quintet
Alex 163 CC
YEB 321S
St. Joseph Symphony Orchestra (MO)
Spirit of Independence Band
SJSO Quintet
Alex 163 CC
YEB 321S
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edsel585960
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Re: Kanstul Conn 20J replacement bell 1K
I'm drooling. 
If I didn't have an upright for my 20J already I'd be all over this. As far as fit. I have a pre WW2 22j that my upright bell does the same thing on. Goes in part way but not all the way.
If I didn't have an upright for my 20J already I'd be all over this. As far as fit. I have a pre WW2 22j that my upright bell does the same thing on. Goes in part way but not all the way.Conn 20-21 J
Conn 10J, Conn 26 K, Martin Mammoth, Mirafone 186, Soviet Helicon, Holton Raincatcher Sousaphone, Yamaha 103, King 1240.
Conn 10J, Conn 26 K, Martin Mammoth, Mirafone 186, Soviet Helicon, Holton Raincatcher Sousaphone, Yamaha 103, King 1240.
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TheGoyWonder
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Re: Kanstul Conn 20J replacement bell 1K
Wow the 20" bell looks great with the front action. 24" still looks best on the top action for some reason.
The best 2xJ tuning is to have the main slide on the short side of the allowable range for your temp/circumstances, and the valve slides on the long side, and remember to keep both Bb's low. The slotting is wide enough that everything is in easy reach if you set it up right. Still a pig for parts that are fast or even remotely high, but it sounds so good in concert band or lite brass band.
The best 2xJ tuning is to have the main slide on the short side of the allowable range for your temp/circumstances, and the valve slides on the long side, and remember to keep both Bb's low. The slotting is wide enough that everything is in easy reach if you set it up right. Still a pig for parts that are fast or even remotely high, but it sounds so good in concert band or lite brass band.