Best stuffed pizza in Chicago?

[alfredr]

Pan pizza, as I knew it back then, was single crust, baked in a cast iron frying pan, mostly filling the frying pan. Thick crust, lots of filling. Not a "stuffed" pizza. Is pan pizza a variant of deep dish, or is it a separate type? What I have seen for deep dish does not appear to be closely related to the pan pizza I used to know.

But the original post asked about stuffed pizza, so I am off topic.

[tofu]

Question: tofu says deep dish pizza was invented in the early 80s. Is deep dish not the same as pan pizza? Because we had Chicago style pan pizza at Champaign-Urbana in the early 70s, People talked about Uno's and Due's.

I think we are confusing deep dish and stuffed pizza, which are two different things

Exactly.

Deep dish – single crust with toppings, cheese, and sauce on top;
Stuffed – double crust with cheese and toppings between, sauce on top.

Tim Samuelson, Chicago's official cultural historian, dates the invention of Chicago-style deep dish to 1943.

Evelyne Slomon, author of The Pizza Book: Everything There Is to Know about the World's Greatest Pie (copyright 1984, by the way, before the eruption of the "invention" war) dates Chicago-style stuffed to the mid-1970s, and attributes its development to Rocco Palese of Nancy's Pizza.

Yeah I meant stuffed - if you go to Giordano's site they claim they invented. Really doesn't matter to me who invented it - still can't stand it.

It's a pain to get to, park, and it's not even that nice, but Wrigley is an American icon, and my son loves the Rangers and likes the Cubs, so that's our father son trip this year

Besides, I have a history at Wrigley, how many people can say they were chastised By Harry Carey on national television?

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Yeah Wrigley is still a great park to see a game and we still go several times over the summer. That's a great clip to have of your honeymoon. Harry always did say what was on his mind.

When I was a kid me and my buddies started as 10 year olds in 1969 taking the train to the loop and then jumping on the EL to Wrigley by ourselves. We would stand in line and pay a $1.50 to sit in the bleachers. The Wrigley's still ran the team as a sport and not a business so they always kept thousands of tickets available on game day- plus all games were during the day back then so you could always just go to the game as during the week most people were working. Now the bleachers are no longer the cheapest seats, you gotta plan way in advance to go to a game and you certainly can't allow kids any more to just jump on the train/el on their own. I heard the other day that for a family of 4 to go the game with average tickets, food, transportation and a few souvenirs for the kids the tab is now over $500. While we can afford to do it, for a lot of folks this has become like a vacation outing that they have to save up for and no longer just a spur of the moment "let's catch the game" thing. And that's kind of a shame.

Metro-Cats (Metropolitan Chicago Area Tuba Society) back in I think Sept. of 1984 played the National Anthem. Richard Frazier lived a few blocks from Wrigley so we walked from his house - pretty much dressed as bums - played then sat in the stands drinking beer, watched the game, wandered back to Richard's where we tapped a keg and drank more beer. I have no idea what the commentary up in the booth was after we had meandered out there.

When my 15 year old did it last year her singing group had 2 five hour rehearsals and special outfits and there was no beer. No just show up and play - they clearly are not tuba players.

[pgym]

Pan pizza, as I knew it back then, was single crust, baked in a cast iron frying pan, mostly filling the frying pan. Thick crust, lots of filling. Not a "stuffed" pizza. Is pan pizza a variant of deep dish, or is it a separate type? What I have seen for deep dish does not appear to be closely related to the pan pizza I used to know.

Deep dish is a variant of pan, but it's usually considered/treated as a distinct type owing to its distinctive crust, which is more biscuit-like than bread-like.

[Gongadin]

http://www.chowhound.com/post/deep-dish ... ago-436379
Thread has mention of stuffed crust establishments as well as deep dish.

[Rick Denney]

I predict the future of those who regularly eat stuffed-crust pizza:

1. Barrett's Esophagus (with associated and unpleasant RF ablation treatments)

2. GERD (and the lifelong Omeprezole prescription that it leads to)

3. a new set of scales.

Rick "ask me how I know" Denney

[Gongadin]

I predict the future of those who regularly eat stuffed-crust pizza:

1. Barrett's Esophagus (with associated and unpleasant RF ablation treatments)

2. GERD (and the lifelong Omeprezole prescription that it leads to)

3. a new set of scales.

Rick "ask me how I know" Denney

A new set of scales? In addition to major, minor, blues, et al?

[Donn]

Interesting prognosis. I suppose it would be theoretically possible to make a stuffed pizza, that would be a healthful every day meal? ... and if so, different in what ways. The pictures of the real thing do make it look kind of toxic, but it is only a variation on pizza, and pizza is all about variations.

I'm guessing the culprit in most people's views will be the super abundant tomato sauce, but aside from the obvious solution (less tomato sauce), maybe there are better and worse combinations of tomato sauce ingredients. I personally would suggest as an experiment, better quality olive oil and plenty of it, but the problems are 1) most of the quality issue is whether it's really olive oil, for which price is not strictly reliable, and 2) I wouldn't know, since tomato sauce doesn't bother me much anyway.