Kin folks said, "Jed, Move away from there..."

[bisontuba]

I heard Tennessee is the leading state for bunkers.....l

[Three Valves]

I heard Tennessee is the leading state for bunkers.....l

People don't put bunkers under double-wides!!

[iiipopes]

Yeah, but Silver Dollar City in Branson, Missouri is where the small town episodes were filmed. It was a big deal here in southwest Missouri, and helped put the 1880's theme park on the national amusement park map in the early 1960's.

[Three Valves]

I heard Tennessee is the leading state for bunkers.....l

People don't put bunkers under double-wides!!

When I go "up north", I see $400K houses/apt's/etc. that LOOK LIKE shoulder-to-shoulder double-wides...
...and - if you have twice that much to spend on a house - they have some two-story 1930's brick "boxes" (w/original kitchens/plumbing/wiring/etc.) to offer to you.

Thanks for reminding me.

I have to pay property tax on mine by the first.

[Three Valves]

Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee are OK.

"Why did they put The South, so far South??"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRyIMqXA_o8" target="_blank

[Donn]

Be as secretive as you want. They'll find you anyway, pick you off, and all that prep effort in vain.

[The Big Ben]

Pretty sad, if you ask me. People need to get a grip on reality. These are as stupid as bomb shelters in the backyard during the 1950s.

In the early 60s, a guy built a bomb shelter in his yard in my South Seattle neighborhood. He was an engineer at the Boeing Company so the design was a thing of beauty. The "living area" was 10' x 10' x 10'. The walls were two foot thick reinforced concrete and he was going to have a door sawn into the garage wall for a door. opened into the basement of his house and there was 10' of dirt on all sides except the one abutting the garage wall which was also the foundation of the house. My father had kind of a sarcastic way about him and asked the owner, "Well, Paul, how long are you going to have to stay in there if the Ruskies drop the Big One here?" "As long as necessary." "And how long might that be?" "I don't know. A month?" He had a wife and three kids. Cooped up in a 10x10x10 concrete box with no provisions for food, water or waste removal. My father remarked, "Man, it's really gonna smell in there." and went home. The owner must have thought over the problem again and never had the door sawn into the foundation of the house. The guy moved his family out of the neighborhood a few years later. When I was a teenager, a new family bought the house and the new owner didn't believe me when I told him he had also bought a bomb shelter. So, we rounded up a 12' x2" piece of water pipe and I measured out 10' of pipe and made a line. We took turns pounding it into the ground where I said it was supposed to be and, sure enough, when the 10' line was about ground level, the pipe wouldn't go in any more. The guy said to me, "What do you know. You weren't BSing me. There is something there. What a stupid thing to do...." But the family was *safe*.

Burying a bus like Elephant describes would make for a bitchin' clubhouse and, in a hot, muggy Mississippi summer, it might make a nice refuge for the hot nights with the addition of a refrigerator full of cheap beer, an overstuffed couch, a kerosene lantern and a box of old Playboy magazines. But, protecting a guy from "them"? I think not.

[bisontuba]

I would only take issue with this one word, the reason being that it means "fear of foreigners", whereas most people with bug-out and hide-out places see themselves as preparing to defend themselves against their own neighbors (i.e. "people like them, and who live nearby").

Speaking of your neighbors, how are they?

[Donn]

I deal with it by whining on tuba web forums while consuming unhealthy amounts of coffee.

Just want to point out that the most common "unhealthy amount" of coffee consumption is "not enough." How much is enough, depends on the particular effect they're looking at - for example, from a Harvard analysis it looked like three to five cups a day is optimal for cardiovascular benefits, while another Harvard study on depression said four or more. Among the many benefits:

• reduced risk of colorectal cancer and melanoma
• reduced incidence/severity of depression
• reduced incidence of tinnitus

(Most apply only to real coffee, by the way, but decaf might get you the cancer benefits, don't know.)

[Three Valves]

Today is National Coffee Day??

[arminhachmer]

I deal with it by whining on tuba web forums while consuming unhealthy amounts of coffee.

Just want to point out that the most common "unhealthy amount" of coffee consumption is "not enough." How much is enough, depends on the particular effect they're looking at - for example, from a Harvard analysis it looked like three to five cups a day is optimal for cardiovascular benefits, while another Harvard study on depression said four or more. Among the many benefits:

• reduced risk of colorectal cancer and melanoma
• reduced incidence/severity of depression
• [caffeinated only] reduced incidence of tinnitus

Coffee "studies" come and go with the seasons and with the fashions.

- I bought my Mom (coffee-lover) some very high-in-caffeine-at-that-time (certainly compared to what she had been purchasing at her grocery) cans of coffee (Farmer Brothers) and it ~gave~ her tinnitus (which stopped, when she moved back to her lower-in-caffeine grocery store coffee).
- I had to stop drinking coffee and move to tea, because coffee messed up my (let's call it) "digestion". Whenever I try coffee again, the same symptoms immediately follow. Based on personal experience, I simply cannot coax myself into believing that "daily diarrhea" is a preventative of colorectal cancer.

Are my reports "anecdotal"? Of course they are - just as are Harvard's.

bloke "There are many self-appointed arbiters of trvth. They question is this: Do we pay attention to them?"

Of course we pay attention Bloke...when they say what we like to hear. If not, we wait a little while until another manufacturer funded study comes out with what we like to hear. Coffee is fine for me up to 2 cups a day. Cups, not quart size jugs.