History on old sousaphone: Metro - Lockie Music Exchange?

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Didn’t those braces get their shape from being rolled by a certain tool after their feet/flanges had been soldered to the tubing?

When Böhm & Meinl started making their York Master lines after American designs, couldn’t they have strived for the same shape of the braces?
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imperialbari wrote:Didn’t those braces get their shape from being rolled by a certain tool after their feet/flanges had been soldered to the tubing?

When Böhm & Meinl started making their York Master lines after American designs, couldn’t they have strived for the same shape of the braces?
Maybe earlier on, as the YMs I've seen don't look like that.

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imperialbari wrote:Didn’t those braces get their shape from being rolled by a certain tool after their feet/flanges had been soldered to the tubing?

When Böhm & Meinl started making their York Master lines after American designs, couldn’t they have strived for the same shape of the braces?
After reviewing Imperialbari's posts on this other thread: viewtopic.php?uid=460951&f=2&t=70620&start=0" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank, I feel the Bohm & Meinl York Masters in his gallery are the closest I've seen so far.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Yor ... _396262028" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

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Would it be feasible to consider it a stenciled B&M York Master that could have been made/assembled in either Germany or Grand Rapids? I may be rooting for the Grand Rapids connection, as it now resides within an hour of there, and I like the idea of it hitting stages in its home town.

I have no idea how to date it, but it would seem from what I've read, it would be between 1945 and 1970 (a big span, but I don't have much to narrow it down, other than the York Master time period. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/York_Band ... nt_Company" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank

Thanks for the input - opinions for or against are welcome.
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bloke wrote:I'm not interested at all in "defending my guess", but I have a bucket of those brace socket flanges (and no, I ain't sellin' any of 'em) that Herr Nirschl sold to me years ago...identical in appearance to York.

Those casings and caps look Boehm-&-Meinl-ish as well.

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The plot thickens..

I found a serial number, 26706, but not surprisingly, it doesn't match anything I've found so far in the York world.
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I just pick up an old York sousaphone. It has York with the triangler O on the bell. It is in at Wally's, here in Oregon City, getting cleaned and a large dent removed from the elbow of the bell. It also is getting the shoulder rest reattached. It has the three support braces and the smaller tubing of the one in the picture, with the darker color. And the rest matches as well. I will try to supply some pictures.

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