SOLD: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO

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SOLD: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO

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Trader backed out, putting this up for sale.

Four valves, 1960s vintage, in very fine condition. Minibal style linkage conversion, decent Alex intonation (1-3 for G and D in staff, no main slide kicker needed), .812" bore, huge dark sound. Crazy low register. This one has an extra-large lead pipe but comes with an adapter that will fit modern mouthpieces. Includes Soundwear gig bag.

Asking $4,000 plus shipping (buyer responsibility). Located in Louisville KY.


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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500

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Here are some more pics. The rotor casings are bronze. There is a missing strap ring on the back. There is lacquer (perhaps aftermarket?) that is about 50% remaining, but the underlying brass is in very good shape. No red rot. This tuba belonged to a former Army bandsman and was babied by him.

Let me speak a bit about the intonation. With three uncommon alternate fingerings (bottom line G, middle line D and top space G all played 1+3), this is one of the most in-tune tubas I have owned, no bull. This spring and summer I worked on finding a CC that was right for me - I went through a Cerveny Piggy, 186 clone, Rudy 3/4, Mirafone 184, and this fella. Out of all those, only the 186 clone had better intonation than the Alex (with the alternate fingerings). I sat down and made a tendency chart for each one. Without the alternate fingerings, the G's are lippable (maybe 10-15c flat) but D is horrendous (about 35 cents flat). In technical passages and in the middle of runs, G works well open, but 1+3 is good when you're sitting on a donut. D basically always needs to be played 1+3. So, there's your Alex caveat. You need to employ some other common sense alternates besides the aforementioned ones - 12 for E and 23 for Eb in the staff, stuff like that.

Low register: Low F works well with 124 push 1, low E is spot-on with 234, low Eb works well with 134 pull 1. I do not really miss the fifth valve on this one. Great pedal tones, and C# two lines below the staff centers nicely with 24. False tones work nicely - near-pedal D with 12 and Db with 23.

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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500

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Beautiful tuba!!
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500

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Those paddle extenders are clever!
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500

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Yes, they are nifty and not as noticeable as coins. Everything on this tuba works extremely well. Valves are quiet, good compression, slides are smooth. I would probably vent the first valve if I was going to keep it. I had a number of projects planned for this tuba, but I have too many tubas, an engagement ring to buy, and so on.

I will consider all offers.
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500

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Gorgeous tuba!

Reminds me of this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_DgcWjzQKg
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500

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Bump. Price negotiable, all offers considered. Tuba is located in Louisville, KY and I can drive up to ~6 hours to meet for a sale. I am wary of shipping, but would be willing to discuss the possibilities with a serious buyer.
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500

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Bump for a great classic tuba.
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500

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New Year's Bump for an Alex.....very fair price!
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,500

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My no-nonsense price is $4,000 firm. Need to move this soon. Buyer pays shipping if you want to risk it.
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 priced to sell

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I absolutely would, if I were anywhere nearby. I can't believe this is still available!
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000

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Bump. Fund my honeymoon.
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Great deal!
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000

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Bump. Some recent interest but nothing concrete. Might entertain trades for an Eb if the tuba is right.
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pm sent
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Bump...
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO

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All offers and trades considered. Would like to move this soon.
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO

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Bump... can't believe this hasn't sold yet
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO

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Bump...
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Re: FS: Alexander 163 CC $4,000 OBO

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I pulled this out the other day and gave it a whirl. Buy this before I change my mind.

With a smaller mouthpiece (PT-64), I find that the 13 fingering for first line G is not necessary.
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