indentifying an f tuba

[LucGeraats]

Hi dear folks,

I came across this unbranded F tuba, well it was branded but the engraving wore out ..
I'm having troubles indentifying it.
I think it's czech/bohemian but I'm not sure.. Amati/Cerveny?

Bell with garland is 35cm
Bore 18mm
4 valves.

I will attach some pictures.

Greetings

LG

[LucGeraats]

I'm not really sure if this works.
There two pictures I can't get rid of..thats of course not the tuba I need to identify.

http://s1175.photobucket.com/user/LucGe ... t=3&page=1" target="_blank

[pjv]

I'm amazed this thing plays in F. It looks much more like a BBb.

[LucGeraats]

It's f, haha. The other one in the pictures is Bbb.
The tubing from the 3th and 4th are weird to me..

[pjv]

It's the double wrap that fooled me

[imperialbari]

Full front and rear shots taken perpendicular to the main plane of the tuba make the best starting points for an identification.

This one could be Czech made. The lyre box flange points away from B&S.

Klaus