Star Wars: Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith

[Doug@GT]

Like Chris said, Vader was most likely part real part CG. Mostly real, I'd guess.

Unfortunately, Mr. Lucas must not think his actors are very athletic. Any time a character had to jump or move faster than a walk, they became little CGI crap things. It was worse than The Matrix Reloaded.

Still, when Palpatine says "I can feel your anger..." Man. Chills. That guy rocks my socks.

[Doug@GT]

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[Leland]

I don't think that Episodes I and II could have really been any different. They were there for story progression, not swashbuckling action. It's a multipart series, not a collection of films like the James Bond flicks.

When my friends & I went to see Ep. I's midnight premiere, we went back home and tried to figure it out. The biggest fan hated the movie. Then, we started talking about what we saw, and tried to piece together what needed to happen until Ep. IV picks up the story. We started to get really into the discussion, and that same "biggest fan" became really excited about the movie.

Anyway...

I've heard another person complain that Anakin turned to the dark side too easily. I thought that Anakin was always borderline to begin with; it wasn't going to take much of a nudge to get him to turn.

I dug all the movies. Yes, the acting usually sucked, and Lucas can't write romance to save his life, but it was a fascinating story. Last night, I kept realizing that my jaw was hanging open because I was so amazed by how thoroughly the Republic, Separatists, and Jedi were all torn to pieces. The Sith definitely got its revenge, that's for sure.

[Doug@GT]

Lucas can't write romance to save his life

Did people in your theatre laugh out loud every time Natalie Portman said "Ani"?

[Leland]

Lucas can't write romance to save his life

Did people in your theatre laugh out loud every time Natalie Portman said "Ani"?

Hehe.. if they didn't do it aloud, I'm pretty sure they were thinking of it. Either that, or they wanted to groan.

[Doug@GT]

Revenge of the whaaaa??

So, this is episode 3 of that "Kill Bill" series...?

As to the hype/final product ratio, I'd equate the star wars prequels with Kill Bill, yes.

[Chuck(G)]

I think I'll wait until it comes out on Super 8.

[Shockwave]

This film is better than the last two but not as good as the first 3 by any stretch. The one word I would use to describe this film is: BUSY. It's a mile wide and an inch deep, skimming over hundreds of topics in order to cut to the big, huge, busy fight scenes. Like a bad porno, there are a few quite boring segues between action scenes with wooden acting and a story that just barely makes sense. If I hadn't seen the other 5 movies, I wouldn't have enjoyed this one at all. This entire movie could have been replaced by a few extra paragraphs of yellow text at the beginning of episode 4.

-Eric

[Doug@GT]

This film is better than the last two but not as good as the first 3 by any stretch. The one word I would use to describe this film is: BUSY. It's a mile wide and an inch deep, skimming over hundreds of topics in order to cut to the big, huge, busy fight scenes. Like a bad porno, there are a few quite boring segues between action scenes with wooden acting and a story that just barely makes sense. If I hadn't seen the other 5 movies, I wouldn't have enjoyed this one at all. This entire movie could have been replaced by a few extra paragraphs of yellow text at the beginning of episode 4.

-Eric

Couldn't have said it better. Lucas should have hired a good screenwriter, and made the three prequels from this single story line.

[windshieldbug]

Like a bad porno

You mean there's socially redeeming porno??

[funkcicle]

You mean there's socially redeeming porno??

there sure is!

[Jonathan Fowler]

Disagree.

Like watching the Ring in many ways. The thrill comes, not from seeing Siegfried kill Fafner (this is actually a really lame part of that saga) but knowing what the implications of such an act are.
Sigmund is not a great character (ie Annakin) but his existence is essential for the drama to occur. They are, in a sense the same person...the dialogue in this case doesn't matter (although the acting in III is much better than I or II-thanks for workshopping that role Mr. Christianson!) The crappiness that was Eps I and II seems only to justify this last one.
While the first three Star wars films seems sacrosanct, it is hard to justify IV and VI as being beter than III.
I was quite pleased to see Mr. McGreggor portraying a much more
Guiness-esque version of Kenobi (what took him so long?).

[Ivan Giddings]

I think this is probably an appropriate place to post this Store wars trailer.

http://www.storewars.org/flash/index.html

[Leland]

I was quite pleased to see Mr. McGreggor portraying a much more
Guiness-esque version of Kenobi (what took him so long?).

I feel that Kenobi had some growing up to do of his own. He was young in I, and started to feel some pressure in II. Anakin changed, too -- he went from a whiny brat to a whiny, dangerous brat. Luke started in IV as a whiner, too (just like his father.. lol).

I think they progressed their characters just fine.

Nobody's as bad of an actor, though, as Matt "Guitar" Murphy. Then again, he was so bad that it was practically funny.

[Charlie Goodman]

I thought it was a great movie. (I saw it at midnight, because I'm a nerd, dammit) There were still some issues, but in general I thought it solved some of the problems of the other two prequels.

One thing that struck me though... was anybody else amazed at the scenery of the planets on which the Jedis were killed? It just flashed to these breathtaking planets only to move on to another within ten seconds. That whole sequence must have cost a fortune, and I would have love to have seen more of those environments.

I was also disappointed with the quality of the crowd at the midnight showing. Midnight screenings are getting so mainstream that a guy behind me was making fun of my plastic lightsaber. C'mon, why wait in a line a quarter of a mile long to see a movie the first night at midnight if you're not enthusiastic about it, or at least enough to loosen up and let some geeks be geeky.

[TexTuba]

I liked the movie. IMO it was better than the first two. Now I have to go see the original 3 since I haven't seen them since I was about 10. Overall it was good stuff.








Ralph

[Doug@GT]

Disappointing.

I went at midnight Thursday morning. The atmosphere was great. We had lightsabre battles break out and a fully armored Stormtrooper. The crowd was better than the film. Not that the film was bad, but...disappointing.

Remember the scene in RotJ when the Emperor and Vader are trying to turn Luke? That was the scene this film needed. Luke knew he needed to stop the Emperor or his friends would die. The Emperor gave Luke the means to kill him, turning to the Dark Side. Luke trusted the Force and with his faith, Darth Vader and the Emperor were defeated, redeeming Anakin Skywalker in the process.

The scene where Anakin helps to kill Samuel L. and then turns has no power. I never felt Anakin struggling like I felt Luke struggling. That scene needed to be much longer.

I felt no connection between the characters. Anakin loved Padme? I didn't feel anything between them, only words. Obi-Wan thought of Anakin as a brother? Didn't feel that either.

Some problems as I was watching the film: In Jedi, Leia talked of remembering their mother when talking to Luke. Padme dies in childbirth. Not a huge problem, maybe Leia is remembering her adopted mother who could die when Leia is young, or maybe the Organas had pictures of Padme they showed Leia.

In Star Wars, Obi-Wan tells Luke that Darth Vader hunted down and killed the jedi. The only jedi Vader kills are Samuel L. (hardly) and the "younglings" (stupid name, why not Padiwans?) Ohhhh, what a bad ***, kills little kids. How much cooler if Darth Vader in full black armor really did hunt down the Jedi, instead of them being killed by Stormtroopers who turned on them? Then there would be a reason for Yoda and Kenobi to go into hiding, because Vader was so powerful, they knew he would kill them. Instead, after battling to a draw with Palpatine, Yoda says, "Go into hiding I must." Which lets Lucas check off of his list the item: "Why is Yoda on Dagobah?"

Yoda does not always speak in flipped sentences!!! "Not if anything to say about it, I have," was the worst line Frank Oz ever had to say. That said, Palpatine and Yoda were the best actors in the film.

The lightsabre battles. In the original three films (IV-VI), there was no animation, just two guys in front of a blue screen with choreagraphed moves. That works so much better for story telling than all the flips and CGA they can do now. There's lots of cool in Revenge of the Sith, but not enough depth.

Bill,

You and I agree on something. What is the world coming to?

That said, on your comment about Leia and her mother: Remember Luke asks "Do you remember your mother--your real mother?"

About Vader hunting down the Jedi--I got to thinking this weekend, that Ep III should have been episode II (with I and II put together), and then ep III should have been Darth Vader going around killing Jedi. Then they could have spent more time on those alien planets.

One more thing: why all of a sudden is "Darth" the title for a sith lord? In ep IV, it is used as a name. (Obi-wan: "You can't win, Darth.")

Die, George Lucas, nobody likes you.

[Shockwave]

Well, since so many movies these days are remakes, maybe someone will remake these last three crappy star wars movies in the original style. Even the spoilers I read were better than this movie! Watching the behind the scenes videos on the star wars sight, it seemed as though Lucas now has so much authority that nobody questions him no matter how bad his ideas are.

-Eric

[Leland]

Eh, whatever, I dug it. I might even go see it again tonight.

[Doug@GT]

So who all got to see the Chronicles of Narnia trailer? Thoughts?