Refurbished King 2341

[greenbean]

The sloppiness (and weirdness) of the eBay posting is strange, I will say, given the good reputation of Wichita Band. I have bought several woodwinds from them (back on the ol' days) and they were straight-shooters. Back then - and probably today - they specialized in woodwinds. So... I am willing to be somewhat forgiving of the employee who posted the tuba and their lack of expertise in low brass. They are not exactly trying to scam anyone, after all.

[bort]

The original ad has been updated with more information -- photos of the tuba and the pricelist, with corrections and more details.

Time to put this to rest!

[groth]

The original ad has been updated with more information -- photos of the tuba and the pricelist, with corrections and more details.

Time to put this to rest!

Yes, we're right back to square 1 again.
What we have learned is: A)This horn is a good value for $2850 (I guess if you're in the market for one) and
B)He's still promoting a price list that doesn't reflect the actual refurbished horn in question nor does anyone in the private market ever pay those numbers even for a "new" 2341.

[toobagrowl]

Wichita Band has always sorta "hyped up" the MSRP of many horns the have for sale, while usually having a good/reasonable actual sale price for said horns. I just skip over their MSRP 'talk' and look at the actual sale price, and it is usually pretty good

Ya know, the King 2341 (esp. the tall/detachable bell model from the 1980s-90s) is a very good tuba as is. But I think it could have been an awesome tuba had it been equipped with a larger .728" or .734" valveset bore, and a 5th rotor @ .750" or so. Just think about it

[tofu]

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[rperrym]

Taylor Music has one for $2550 that has been recently overhauled. Description on their website sounds like it is in nice shape.
Knowing them, I would bet it is.

Rick

[edsel585960]

I have no pity for someone who buys this(it's nice!). I have no pity for anyone who believes ANY MSRP. I have no pity for anyone who doesn't research before making a big buy like this.

Amen. Do your homework before buying.

[groth]

The rest of us have no pity for dishonesty in listing ads. Whoever gets this horn however will be happy with it either way.

[groth]

When i was a kid collecting comic books, i used to value each of my books as the highest book value in near mint condition. Naturally they weren't in mint condition, but in my eyes i believed they were worth that or could be worth that. Was I being dishonest? or did i really believe they could be worth that? I have no pity for those who assume the worst of people.

The difference is you weren't selling these on Ebay for profit with a 100% feedback rating to keep clean like WitchitaBand is. If it's a fun hobby like comic books and (you're a kid) it's not that big of a deal. No one is assuming the "worst" here, just calling BS on his description and had hopes he would fix it by removing irrelevant MSRP numbers. I'm sure they got their 100% through many years of hard work and customer service, just doesn't set well for some reason.

[toobagrowl]

A few points to be made:

- The listing has now ended/expired.

- The seller described the valves as "excellent" and showed pics of the valves, appearing to be in great condition with no pitting or plating wear.

- The seller DID correct himself/herself in the MSRP price description if you read it.

So, yeah

[greenbean]

Whatever...

[tofu]

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[bort]

Not good enough!!!

[groth]

Probably because someone bought the horn the second time it "ended".