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Postby roweenie » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:39 pm

I'm looking for the bell length on the Holton 340 or 345......if anyone out there has access to one, could you take a measurement off it for me?

The measurement I need (starting at the point where the bell exits the ferrule to the end of the bell), like so:

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Many thanks in advance!
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Re: Bell measurement needed

Postby bloke » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:13 am

26" is often in the ballpark for shorter tubas (and these - though fat - are fairly short).

If someone hasn't given you the exact measurement from one by then (and I wouldn't be surprised if they varied), bug me tonight, and I'll climb up and measure one for you.
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Re: Bell measurement needed

Postby roweenie » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:23 pm

Sounds about right bloke, thanks (I suspected you'd come through.....)

The York 91 I measured has a 27" long bell, so you're definitely in the ballpark.

The Simonetti website lists the horn (his example, anyway) as having an overall height of 37 3/4".
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Re: Bell measurement needed

Postby djwpe » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:53 pm

Holton 345 BBb is approximately 27-1/2”.
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Re: Bell measurement needed

Postby bloke » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:03 am

They vary a lot.
One up in storage is more than an inch shorter than that.
We've all seen pictures of two side-by-side factory Holton 345 tubas that are different.
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Re: Bell measurement needed

Postby roweenie » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:11 pm

Awesome guys, thanks for the information.

I know that those horns were made in small batches by varying individuals, most likely by hand, so it makes sense that lengths would vary some....
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Re: Bell measurement needed

Postby the elephant » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:45 pm

roweenie wrote:… it makes sense that lengths would vary some…


Mine is sitting by my desk. I will try to remember to measure it when I get home later today. So far as I can tell it was not cut — the bottom bow was, but the bell is original.

EDIT: It is 27" from the floor to the end of the bell itself. The bell fits exactly one 1" deep into the ferrule. These are unaltered parts from a 1964 340 BBb, I think.

Anyway, from the solder line it is 26" in length.
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Re: Bell measurement needed

Postby roweenie » Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:41 pm

Thanks, elephant!
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Re: Bell measurement needed

Postby bloke » Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:50 pm

roweenie wrote:Sounds...


...so et tu down the 6/4 rabbit hole...??

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Re: Bell measurement needed

Postby roweenie » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:26 pm

bloke wrote:
roweenie wrote:Sounds...


...so et tu down the 6/4 rabbit hole...??

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No sir, not a rabbit hole, at least for me.

I have to honestly say that my experiences have been quite different than what you usually describe.
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