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MW 2040 rotary valve Eb - input (?)

Postby barry grrr-ero » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:55 pm

I never see this horn come up, but has anyone tried the Meinl Weston 2040 rotary valve Eb tuba? I take it that these are rather rare. I tried the 2141 piston Eb, but those big piston valves are just too much for me.
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Re: MW 2040 rotary valve Eb - input (?)

Postby Adam C. » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:32 pm

I played a MW 2040/5 at Dillon's several years ago. I wasn't in the market for an Eb at the time, but I remember the intonation was remarkable and the evenness of sound was impressive. It was a very different instrument than the 2141, which I played for a few years. I still think about the 2040/5 from time to time.
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Re: MW 2040 rotary valve Eb - input (?)

Postby spirtuba » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:39 pm

I play one with 5 valves, 2040/5. I like it very much and it became my main horn for some years now for jazz and impro music, even considering it for the concert band.

Rumors/Problems: I heard it's not great for tall people (can not tell, am small) and some seem to have problems with the e above the staff (I don't seem to have that problem at all, maybe I have newer model). And the valves are relatively high on the instrument (but I don't mind).

I think it plays a lot bigger than the miraphone ns and even a bit bigger than the 983 (at least with a darker sound) and I use a pt72 with it, a perfect match for me.

For me and for what I use it for it's the perfect tuba...
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Yamaha YCB-822, 621

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Re: MW 2040 rotary valve Eb - input (?)

Postby barry grrr-ero » Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:44 pm

Awesome. Thanks.
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Re: MW 2040 rotary valve Eb - input (?)

Postby Lamminator » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:12 pm

The 2040/5 is my main horn. I came for the Besson compensated so it took me a while to get used to the Rotary Valves.

I think it’s a great instrument with a lovely sound. It’s comfortable to hold and easy in the low register though it’s takes time to center the lowest range and the technique does not readily transfer from the piston. Like anything time on it bears fruit.

I had the 5th valve lowered as my thumb didn’t sit firmly enough. Just make sure your thumb is long enough!

I would recommend it as a great alternative to the standard compensated fair. I use it in all ensembles big to small. I Don’t get many complaints.
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Re: MW 2040 rotary valve Eb - input (?)

Postby joh_tuba » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:34 am

This model is pretty rare here in the states. Does anyone have a recording of one in use?

Years ago I played a PT22 that was wonderful BUT it would appear that that model is discontinued and Buffet being what it is the odds of talking them into making one just for you seem low. The nearest sibling instrument is the MW2141(same basic horn with minor changes). The 2141 is ALSO no longer listed on the Meinl Weston website and appears to have been removed and or 'out of stock' on every vendor website I can find.

SOOO... the closest horn still in production appears to be the 2040. Also, not listed on any USA vendor websites. Suggestions on where to source one of these and any publicly available recordings appreciated.
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Re: MW 2040 rotary valve Eb - input (?)

Postby dxdent » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:29 pm

Jim Laabs music has both the the 2040 and 2041 listed on their web site. Whether they can ACTUALLY obtain them......
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Re: MW 2040 rotary valve Eb - input (?)

Postby Patrase » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:44 am

You could ask Mark Carter aka Mr Tuba. He is in the UK and has a website Mr Tuba - I think he carries an 'improved' version of the 2040
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Re: MW 2040 rotary valve Eb - input (?)

Postby Simonk » Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:43 am

I can second Mark Carter for a contact - i bought an excellent 2040/5 from him about 2 years ago and its great. I too came from using a compensator and it has taken some time to get used to the 5th valve and differing ergonomics but practice works. I tried it directly against a Norwegian Star and it won hands down for ease of use, variety of sound quality and intonation. If you are looking at at Eb for any reason, you should give it a go.
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